Hi Jamie all fours means when you get down on your knees and hands to look for somthing on the floor infact that is what most blind people do go on all fours to look for somthing they drop hope that helps Love Carol x.x.x.x. -----Original Message----- From: jamie collins - Email Address: jamie.collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 26/06/2011 23:57 Sent To: Carol O'Connor, guide Chat List - Email Address: missbossyboots33@xxxxxxxxx, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: In Reply To: [guide.chat] Hi clare What does all 4's mean