[gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16

  • From: Kathy Davies <kdavies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 09:49:47 -0400

Sounds like we're going to have to manually enter a historical grade for
Anatomy and Physiology. Do we include the 'grade' for that 'course' in
figuring GPA? Do we send that 'course grade' up during student record, even
if it isn't actually scheduled?



*Kathy Davies*
*System Information Manager, Lamar County Schools*
*Co-Chair, Georgia PowerSchool Users Group*
*http://www.lamar.k12.ga.us <http://www.lamar.k12.ga.us> *
*v. 770.358.8668 f. 770.358.8669*

Be Green, Keep It On Screen - But if you must print, shred!

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Carolyn Oliver <COliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Yeah, I really know that but I want the DOE to think about these
things. However, if a district has designated the Anatomy course as an SLO
course and you assign a teacher, you will get errors on the Anatomy course
since no teacher will be administering a SLO.



My whole point is that the DOE should provide guidance when these types of
changes are issued. We should not have to try to figure it out. If we all
try to figure out what we should do, each district may be doing things
differently and as students transfer, that could be an issue.



Carolyn



*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Denise Epperson
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:01 PM

*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16



Just talked to Josh on what we need to do, he said if we just add it to
the transcripts, the HiQ will not matter. If you schedule, then the HiQ,
comes into play.



Denise Epperson

Administrative Technology

Griffin-Spalding County Schools

216 South Sixth Street

Griffin, GA 30224

770-229-3710 ext 315

Fax: 770-229-3708

Denise.epperson@xxxxxxxx



*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Carolyn Oliver
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 3:33 PM
*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16



Why won’t the DOE just think things all the way through or propose it to
an advisory committee that includes data people so all of these questions
can be answered first? I don’t want to tell my people how to do anything
until I know what the DOE is expecting. I did forward the email to Wanda
Jones and Betty Rickicki.







*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
*On Behalf Of *Denise Epperson
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 3:30 PM
*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16



Carolyn,



Would you please stop finding stuff because it is giving me more
work!!!!!!!!!!!!



Denise Epperson

Administrative Technology

Griffin-Spalding County Schools

216 South Sixth Street

Griffin, GA 30224

770-229-3710 ext 315

Fax: 770-229-3708

Denise.epperson@xxxxxxxx



*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Carolyn Oliver
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 3:17 PM
*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16




http://www.gadoe.org/External-Affairs-and-Policy/State-Board-of-Education/SBOE%20Rules/160-4-2-.20.pdf
is effective this year. See page 128. This document was approved April
22, 2015, for this year.





*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
*On Behalf Of *Carolyn Oliver
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 3:14 PM
*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16



Exactly. How do we award credit? Do we enter the Anatomy course on the
transcript? What grade do we give or do we give a P for pass? Who is the
teacher of record? Chances are that the Healthcare teacher is not HiQ for
Anatomy. Do we only give the Anatomy credit if the student passes
Healthcare based on “students who earn a unit of credit for Essentials of
Healthcare (25.44000) will also receive a unit of credit for Human
Anatomy/Physiology (26.07300).”? What if the student fails Healthcare?



Carolyn







*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
*On Behalf Of *Denise Epperson
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 3:07 PM
*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] Re: FW: IDA3 FY16



I found this on the DOE’s website (
http://www.gadoe.org/Curriculum-Instruction-and-Assessment/Curriculum-and-Instruction/Documents/CIA%20NEWSLETTERS/Summary-of-Changes-IDA-3-160-4-2-20-for-2015-2016.pdf)
It is the Draft version of Additions/Deletions/Changes to the courses for
15-16 School Year. This is what it is showing for the course. It sounds
like it isn’t DOE law yet. J



25.44000 Essentials of Healthcare Course meets fourth science requirement;
Students who earn 1 unit of credit for this course shall also receive 1
unit of credit for Human Anatomy and Physiology, course number 26.07300
beginning for students enrolled in the 2014-2015 school year and subsequent
years. Course meets fourth science requirement; Pursuant to O.C.G.A. §
20-2-159.3 and State Board of Education Rule 160-5-1- .15 AWARDING UNITS OF
CREDIT AND ACCEPTANCE OF TRANSFER CREDIT AND/OR GRADES, it is recommended
that students who earn a unit of credit for Essentials of Healthcare
(25.44000) will also receive a unit of credit for Human Anatomy/Physiology
(26.07300). This will be the first time a recommendation is being made to
the State Board of Education to award course credit for a CTAE course and
course credit for an associated academic core course that includes embedded
standards from an academic core subject area.





Denise Epperson

Administrative Technology

Griffin-Spalding County Schools

216 South Sixth Street

Griffin, GA 30224

770-229-3710 ext 315

Fax: 770-229-3708

Denise.epperson@xxxxxxxx



*From:* gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
gsis_admins-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Carolyn Oliver
*Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 1:43 PM
*To:* gsis_admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [gsis_admins] FW: IDA3 FY16



Have any of you heard about this yet? Hopefully, we will get some
guidance from the DOE before the end of the year.



*From:* Susan Goethe
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 2:21 PM
*To:* Carolyn Oliver; Susan Browning
*Cc:* Marores Perry
*Subject:* IDA3 FY16



Carolyn and Susan,

I was in a meeting today at Chatt Tech. This information was discussed and
is in IDA3 for next school year. Here is an example of one course. I know
that Marores has stated already that at a state CTAE meeting that this
information was presented to CTAE directors by Pam Smith.





While Marores and I don’t understand how this is not double dipping and
don’t agree that two credits should be awarded for the same course, I just
need to know what either of you have heard. Currently, we only post to
transcript a course that a student is enrolled in with a teacher involved
on one line of transcript history. When a course meets two area
requirements such as CTAE and Science, one course credit is on the
transcript under CTAE. The transcript audit shows that a science
requirement has also been met. However, another credit has not been awarded
meaning two credits for this single course which would mean two CIP codes,
two different department categories, etc. Does this mean that a student
could graduate this year and take only 22 credits because we would manually
update transcript history with another CIP code, course title, credit, etc.?



Of course, we use primary teacher override field for online, dual
enrollment, etc. courses. Would the same teacher’s name be on this added
credit in science in the example above? Is it expected that counselors will
simply add another entry to transcript history for these kinds of courses.
How does this impact the HiQ for the teacher? How does impact anything with
TKES.



I am lost and confused….please note that this begins this school year. One
example is above.



Thank you for your help,

Susan



*Susan Goethe**, *MBA, MS, EdS, EdD

Director of Counseling Services

Paulding County School District

3236 Atlanta Highway

Dallas, GA 30132

770-443-8003 ext. 10134

Fax: 770-443-6014



*Currently serving students in Classes 2015 - 2027*




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