OK. Well, good to know I guess. I wonder if the "correct" key would enable more verbose behavior or maybe this is just a fallback (or maybe something changed btw my information in Vista beta and RTM). At the time, Microsoft told me that gpsvc.log was only useful for MS support and should not be enabled by customers J. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FlowMaN Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:55 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: UserEnv... Finally gone from Vista? I tried it. Without the reg key, there is no gpsvc.log. After I have set the key, the gpsvc.log appeared in the debug folder, and the file's content & structure are similar than the old userenv.log. I don't know the official statement about this behaviour. ;) -- Otto Horvath [MS MVP - Group Policy] On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <darren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: OK. Well the reg value that you put forward is not supposed to enable verbose gpsvc.log logging, at least not according to what MS told me back in the Vista beta days. That log requires a different reg hack. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FlowMaN Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: UserEnv... Finally gone from Vista? Yes, there is no userenv.log at all, I mistyped the file name. :) %Systemroot%\Debug\UserMode\gpsvc.log -- Otto Horvath [MS MVP - Group Policy] On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Darren Mar-Elia <darren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: The last time I looked, userenv in Vista no longer held detailed GP related data. That had all been moved to the Operational log and gpsvc.log, which contains much more low level detail than userenv used to. Microsoft does provide a nifty command-line utility for view the Operational Log data, called GPLogView. Its at www.codeplex.com/gplogview and in fact you can download its source code from there as well. It has some cool features, including real-time monitoring of Ops Log data-you can actually see the GP events scroll onto the screen as GP is refreshing. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan & Margaret Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:31 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: UserEnv... Finally gone from Vista? Gee Whiz. I thought I had tried that, but miss-spelt it. Now it works.., Thanks _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FlowMaN Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2008 7:13 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: UserEnv... Finally gone from Vista? Same reg key as Windows XP or Server 2003. Hive: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE Key: Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version\Winlogon Name: UserenvDebugLevel Type: REG_DWORD UserenvDebugLevel=30002 File path: %Systemroot%\Debug\UserMode\Userenv.log -- Otto Horvath [MS MVP - Group Policy] On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Alan & Margaret <syspro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Some of you may know of my free program that formats the UserEnv log so that you can see what is happening with Group Policy Processing. When Vista was first released, the file was renamed to gpsvc.log with minor changes to the format. My latest release of Vista seems to have removed it totally, placing information in the event viewer instead. Does anyone know if there is a registry key to reenable it. or is it gone for good? Alan Cuthbertson _____ This e-mail may contain identifiable health information that is subject to protection under state and federal law. This information is intended to be for the use of the individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be punishable by law. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail (reply). _____