[gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
- From: "Piet Slaghekke" <pslaghekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:34:17 -0400
So I re-did my win xp install again. Made sure not to leave the usb
drive in the drive during reboots or install. and the same thing
happened again!!
Did a few diagnostic boots no win.ini, no services, no system.in,
no start up items.. all of this did not help.
Finally I uninstalled Symantec Antivirus Enterprise 10.1 and the issue
went away!!!
I wonder what is going on here??
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Piet Slaghekke
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:08 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
OK I did the new xp install and followed your directions. It booted
into the original XP install no problem!!!
but then when I rebooted the same problem emerged. This did not happen
if I did not log in but rebooted from the CTRL-ALT-DEL screen, but as
soon as I logged in as admin and then rebooted the problem emerged
again??
seems the admin user account must be making a change in some boot files.
I am working on a new install on another machine as I trouble shoot this
one. the new install is to be imaged and installed on multiple pc's.
If I can fix the problematic image it will save me time..
thanks for all the help so far!!
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Omar Droubi
Sent: Mon 6/4/2007 1:21 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
Are there any files on the jump drive "ntdetect or ntloader.exe"
You are not dead in the water but you may need to start a dual boot
install to fix your existing OS/
here is an example of how that may work:
1. put the jump drive in your pocket
2. Start a new XP install from CD on the same machine when the install
finds an existing install choose not to upgrade it and choose not to
overwrite the drive. you will need to specify a different path for the
install not c:\windows-- choose something different for the install path
like c:\winXP
3. after you get through the dos based install and it reboots just power
off remove the cd and boot up
4. Now you should have multiple boot options and you should be able to
choose the original installation
5. now you should be able to clean up the boot.ini file to have only the
1 original entry- also dump the c:\winxp folder
I have come across this a few times when people have installed the OS or
the network or hard drive controller drivers using a USB stick. The
common thread was that the USB stick was in the system from power up all
the way through the install.
Another clue would be in Disk manager with the USB drive installed you
may see a reference to system or boot on the drive itself-but you are
past that now.
Omar
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Piet Slaghekke
Sent: Mon 6/4/2007 9:52 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
Funny thing.. now after doing a fixboot and fixmbr in the recovery
console, the machine won't boot even if the usb drive is installed!!
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Piet Slaghekke
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:50 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
Thanks Darren!
the system will only boot with the specific jump drive, in 1 specific
usb port.
I did a fixmbr and fixboot
no luck.
boot.ini is ok
I will try resetting all gpo settings and see what happens.
.
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:17 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
It doesn't *sound* like a GPO problem but its really hard to tell with
that. Is there something special about that USB drive? In other words,
will this repro with *any* USB drive or just a particular one? The only
thing I can think of is that some part of the boot process is relying on
checking that boot drive, but its really hard tell from your description
what part that is. In any case I know of no policies off the top of my
head that would cause this. Have you tried removing all policies to see
if the problem goes away?
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Piet Slaghekke
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:12 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings?
The strangest thing is happening:
My windows machine will only boot with a USB drive in the USB port.
It will boot in safe mode with or without the USB drive.
checked bios settings, set to boot only to the SATA HD and shut off
booting from USB.
This is what happens if I boot without USB drive: first the windows xp
screen comes up, then after a few seconds it will go to a black screen
and do nothing.
Put the USB drive in reboot and it boots with no problems.
The only changes I have made are to the GPO settings. could something
in the GPO settings be causing this?
Thanks!
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