OK I did the new xp install and followed your directions. It booted into the original XP install no problem!!! but then when I rebooted the same problem emerged. This did not happen if I did not log in but rebooted from the CTRL-ALT-DEL screen, but as soon as I logged in as admin and then rebooted the problem emerged again?? seems the admin user account must be making a change in some boot files. I am working on a new install on another machine as I trouble shoot this one. the new install is to be imaged and installed on multiple pc's. If I can fix the problematic image it will save me time.. thanks for all the help so far!! ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Omar Droubi Sent: Mon 6/4/2007 1:21 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings? Are there any files on the jump drive "ntdetect or ntloader.exe" You are not dead in the water but you may need to start a dual boot install to fix your existing OS/ here is an example of how that may work: 1. put the jump drive in your pocket 2. Start a new XP install from CD on the same machine when the install finds an existing install choose not to upgrade it and choose not to overwrite the drive. you will need to specify a different path for the install not c:\windows-- choose something different for the install path like c:\winXP 3. after you get through the dos based install and it reboots just power off remove the cd and boot up 4. Now you should have multiple boot options and you should be able to choose the original installation 5. now you should be able to clean up the boot.ini file to have only the 1 original entry- also dump the c:\winxp folder I have come across this a few times when people have installed the OS or the network or hard drive controller drivers using a USB stick. The common thread was that the USB stick was in the system from power up all the way through the install. Another clue would be in Disk manager with the USB drive installed you may see a reference to system or boot on the drive itself-but you are past that now. Omar ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Piet Slaghekke Sent: Mon 6/4/2007 9:52 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings? Funny thing.. now after doing a fixboot and fixmbr in the recovery console, the machine won't boot even if the usb drive is installed!! ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Piet Slaghekke Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:50 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings? Thanks Darren! the system will only boot with the specific jump drive, in 1 specific usb port. I did a fixmbr and fixboot no luck. boot.ini is ok I will try resetting all gpo settings and see what happens. . ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:17 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings? It doesn't *sound* like a GPO problem but its really hard to tell with that. Is there something special about that USB drive? In other words, will this repro with *any* USB drive or just a particular one? The only thing I can think of is that some part of the boot process is relying on checking that boot drive, but its really hard tell from your description what part that is. In any case I know of no policies off the top of my head that would cause this. Have you tried removing all policies to see if the problem goes away? Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Piet Slaghekke Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:12 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] USB DRIVE Problems winxp boot-->GPO settings? The strangest thing is happening: My windows machine will only boot with a USB drive in the USB port. It will boot in safe mode with or without the USB drive. checked bios settings, set to boot only to the SATA HD and shut off booting from USB. This is what happens if I boot without USB drive: first the windows xp screen comes up, then after a few seconds it will go to a black screen and do nothing. Put the USB drive in reboot and it boots with no problems. The only changes I have made are to the GPO settings. could something in the GPO settings be causing this? Thanks!