[gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy

  • From: "Salandra, Justin A." <jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:22:32 -0500

Scripting has never appealed to me.  If I was forced to do it I would
have to find pieces to put together from the Internet as I don't know
the syntax.  I do as much as I can via GUI as I am not a big fan of CLI
interfaces.

I don't want to get into a debate over scripting, but I think Microsoft
has taken a severe turn negatively with not providing a way to do this
as we have done for years in Office 2000, XP and 2003.

Justin A. Salandra
MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
Network and Technology Services Manager
Catholic Healthcare System
646.505.3681 - office
917.455.0110 - cell
jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of 'FoR ReaLz' E. Balansay
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:06 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SPAM] [gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group
Policy
Importance: Low

Hello,

In my very humble opinion, a "Network and Technology Services Manager"
who 
displays proudly their MCSE in Windows 2000 & 2003 is expected to *at 
least* know how to produce a tiny script that puts icons on users' 
desktops.  It may have been better to spend the time it took memorizing 
MCSE brain dumps on learning a few scripting commands -- Just joking,
LOL! 
=)

Scripting is not solely a "programmer's" tool, as is well known, some 
tasks are just not efficient utilizing a GUI, as opposed to a CLI, 
especially for network admins.

Anyhow, I am merely attempting to convey that using scripts is a great 
tool which every network admin should attempt to gain familiarity with.

Goodbye!
Edgardo

BTW, I am not a programmer, but consider scripting *fun,* if you would 
like a volunteer to assist with creating scripts, please contact me 
off-list, and I'll be enthusiastic to assist for your organization where

possible.




On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Salandra, Justin A. wrote:

> I don't use redirected desktops and I am not a programmer and do not
> know how to script.
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:57 PM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Scripts? Folder Redirection? All lousy but plausible answers...
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:19 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: [SPAM] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> How will you put icons on the desktop?
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of tools@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:17 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SPAM] [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
> Importance: Low
>
>
>
> Justin-
>
> What are you trying to customize exactly? I did manage to install
Office
> 2007 via GP using a config.xml file that excluded all apps except
> Powerpoint, Excel, Word and Outlook. I've attached the file below so
you
> can see what it looks like:
>
>
>
> - <Configuration Product="Ultimater">
>
> - <!--
>
> <Display Level="full" CompletionNotice="yes" SuppressModal="no"
> AcceptEula="no" />
>
>  -->
>
> - <!--
>
> <Logging Type="standard" Path="%temp%" Template="Microsoft Office
> Ultimate Setup(*).txt" />
>
>  -->
>
>  <PIDKEY Value="####-####-#####-#####-#####" />
>
>  <USERNAME Value="User" />
>
>  <COMPANYNAME Value="SDM Softwware" />
>
> - <!--
>
> <INSTALLLOCATION Value="%programfiles%\Microsoft Office" />
>
>  -->
>
> - <!--
>
> <LIS CACHEACTION="CacheOnly" />
>
>  -->
>
> - <!--
>
> <SOURCELIST Value="\\server1\share\Office12;\\server2\share\Office12"
> />
>
>  -->
>
> - <!--
>
> <DistributionPoint Location="\\server\share\Office12" />
>
>  -->
>
>  <OptionState Id="AccessFiles" State="absent" Children="force" />
>
>  <OptionState Id="GrooveFiles" State="absent" Children="force" />
>
>  <OptionState Id="PubPrimary" State="absent" Children="force" />
>
>  <OptionState Id="OneNoteFiles" State="absent" Children="force" />
>
>  <OptionState Id="XDOCSFiles" State="absent" Children="force" />
>
> - <!--
>
> <Setting Id="Reboot" Value="IfNeeded" />
>
>  -->
>
> - <!--
>
> <Command Path="msiexec.exe" Args="/i \\server\share\my.msi"
> QuietArg="/q" ChainPosition="after" Execute="install" />
>
>  -->
>
>  </Configuration>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:21 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> I will try that when the restore finishes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:05 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Since you didn't do an admin install in the first place, how about
just
> using the msiexec <package location> /p <patch location) form of the
> command?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:58 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> I tried the msiexec /a /p command and was unable to re-deploy the
> application.  Got a MsiDatabaseCall failure.
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:00 PM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> I agree that is how it worked.  I have done it many times.  I cannpt
> figure out how to apply the .msp to the network installation point,
(the
> area where we copied the install files to)
>
>
>
> Would it be done using the msiexec command?
>
>
>
> If so, would you still use the /a command?
>
>
>
> Msiexec /a \\server\share\visio\visiopro.ww\visioww.msi
> <file:///\\server\share\visio\visiopro.ww\visioww.msi>  /p
> \\server\share\visio\updates\file.msp
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:05 PM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Normally, the way it works prior to Office 2007 is this. Let's say you
> want to deploy Office 2003 via GP. You create an admin install point,
> create any MSTs and then deploy the package. Then, along comes a path.
> You patch the install point using msiexec /p with the .msp file and
then
> you issue a re-deploy. That is what I was told is the proper order for
> these Office 2007 msps, but again, I haven't tried it.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:54 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Since you can't add an .msp to a GPO, how do you get it to run
> automatically?
>
>
>
> I am not sure I understand this "needs to get applied after the
initial
> install and then you do a re-deploy on the package in GP to get your
> previously installed clients to pick it up."  The initial install is
via
> GPO, so you are saying apply the policy, then run the .msp and then
> re-deploy the policy?  That sounds wired.
>
>
>
> There has got to be a better way.
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:49 PM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> What I just learned is that the MSP needs to get applied after the
> initial install and then you do a re-deploy on the package in GP to
get
> your previously installed clients to pick it up. I know it sounds
hokey.
> I was just on a call with the MS GP team and they are going to try and
> get the Office team to document this better.  I will post something
here
> when I find it out.  Also, just in case, because I don't know if you
> mentioned it, but Office 2007 does not support per-user Software
> Installation at all. Just so you know.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> When modifying the config.xml I was able to enter in the license info,
> however the .msp that I created and placed in the Updates folder did
> nothing.  When I ran the .msp manually it appeared to do what I
wanted,
> like placing the icon on the desktop.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to run the msiexec command to update the VisProWW.msi
> file with the updates from the .msp.  Apparently, all the statements
> from Microsoft that anything in this folder will be installed and
> applied during initial install is false.  Unless this statement is if
> installing it manually and not via Group Policy.
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Right. If you go to the archive for this list, Michael Pietrzak had
> posted some items about this. I don't believe the .msp buys you
anything
> in terms of customization. I hope to test some of this today, however.
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:31 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> What about using the setup.exe /admin switch to create the .msp file?
I
> read that if you leave the .msp file in the Updates folder of the
folder
> structure on the network share that it will apply it during
> installation.  I am not sure I believe this works, because an
> installation of Visio 2007 pushed out but once I opened the product it
> asked me for the CD Key which I had already put in the .msp file that
I
> created.
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:50 PM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Good question Justin. Actually it is possible to deploy Office 2007
> through GP but it has completely changed. You no longer create an
admin
> install point. You just copy the CD  bits to the share. And, it no
> longer supports transforms. You have a file called config.xml that
> support minimal customization that you put in the install directory
> along with the bits. Really a step back actually. MS used to have a
> technet article describing this but the pulled it recently. However,
> thanks to the wonders of Google, you can still find it cached at
>
>
>
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:kLaHkfhp8PoJ:technet2.microsoft.com
>
/Office/en-us/library/efd0ee45-9605-42d3-9798-3b698fff3e081033.mspx+conf
> ig.xml+office+2007+"Group+Policy"&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
>
<http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:kLaHkfhp8PoJ:technet2.microsoft.co
>
m/Office/en-us/library/efd0ee45-9605-42d3-9798-3b698fff3e081033.mspx+con
> fig.xml+office+2007+%22Group+Policy%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1>
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:26 AM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Push out Visio 2007 via Group Policy
>
>
>
> Does anyone know who the Office 2007 products can be pushed out via
> group policy?  How do you create an administrative installation point?
> How to you include customizations?
>
>
>
> Justin A. Salandra
>
> MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
>
> Network and Technology Services Manager
>
> Catholic Healthcare System
>
> 646.505.3681 - office
>
> 917.455.0110 - cell
>
> jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasalandra@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>
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