[gptalk] Re: Running a Batch file at user logon.
- From: TAZAMAL HUSSAIN <tazamal_hussain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:19:43 +0000
Guys,
I have actually come across multiple account/password policies in certain big
AD implementations targeted to specific OUs... what happens here? I'm guessing
they are all ignored and the one set on the defdompol overides, and have been
told these extra policies targeted to specific OUs will apply to locally
created user accounts on the machines in those OUs... if that makes sense?can
anyone confirm this? never got round to testing it....
From: jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [gptalk] Re:
Running a Batch file at user logon.Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:27:03 +0100
Hi Ananth,
I think you first need to accept and understand this:
1. The Computer Configuration part of a policy applies to Computers only
2. The User Configuration part of a policy applies to Users only
You do mention an “exception”, which is account/password policies – it does
*seem* like that is a Computer Configuration that actually hits Users, but it’s
not. You can have 1 account policy in a default AD (2000/2003) – it should be
set in the Default Domain Policy (highest priority GPO on the Domain level) –
and it can be set _nowhere_ else!!!
For your second question – if you have a GPO with BOTH Computer and User
Configuration policy settings defined – you could apply that on the domain
level. And, as it has been said previously, the policy setting will “flow down”
the OU hierarchy in your domain. So, all Computer AND User objects below will
take on their respective part of the GPO (Computers will take the Comp. Conf.
and Users will take the User Conf.). Basically, it doesn’t matter how your OU
structure is, you can have a single OU with all your Computer and User objects
in it – and then link a single GPO with both Computer and Users settings in it,
and it works.
However, GPO filtering is needed in most cases. You can filter on several
levels – Site, Domain, Ou + WMI filters + Security filtering (AD security
groups). You can choose one filtering method, or combine them all.
There are “advanced” policy processing options available, like Loopback
processing etc. – but let’s keep that out of the picture so far ;-)
Did that help?
Regards
/Jakob H. Heidelberg
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ananth RajagopalSent: 31. januar 2008 11:29To:
gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [gptalk] Re: Running a Batch file at user logon.
Two more queries, I seem to be confused here...Consider this scenario.....We
have an Account lockout policy.. set at 5 invalid logons. This is in Computer
configuration.What happens if I link this policy to the OU containing Users? If
I give the Domain Computers in the scope will the policy work for only these
users?orShould I create another OU of computers and link this policy and in the
scope give the user group?For a set of "user and computer configurations" to
work for a "set of users and computers" of a particular department should there
be 2 OU's? one for users with user configuration policies linked and the other
OU with Computers with computer configuration policies linked??hmm.... :-)
On Jan 31, 2008 3:45 PM, Ananth Rajagopal <ananth.rg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks again :-)
On Jan 31, 2008 3:42 PM, hans straat <hstraat@xxxxxxx> wrote:
if you have a OU structure and no block inheritance etc configured the policy
will flow down. OU domain Computers (GPO computer policy apply desktop blabla)
OU Site Computers (will get the policy) OU Site KioskComputers (will get
the policy)as long as they are nested under the main OU :)But you can do a RSOP
planning to see if the OU get's the policy (RSOP in GPMC)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:21:24 +0530
From: ananth.rg@xxxxxxxxxxx: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [gptalk] Re: Running
a Batch file at user logon.If the policies are linked at the domain level,
irrespective of whether its a user configuration or computer configuration will
it run?
On Jan 31, 2008 3:19 PM, Ananth Rajagopal <ananth.rg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks Hans! :-)
On Jan 31, 2008 2:18 PM, hans straat <hstraat@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Anath, Computer configuration policies should be applied on the OU the
computers you target are located in. Like User policies should be applied to
the OU the targetted users reside in. regards,Hans Straatwww.datacrash.net
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:15:41 +0530From: ananth.rg@xxxxxxxxx
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [gptalk] Re: Running a Batch file at user
logon.Hi Jacob,From the event viewer we got only the RSoP error, "RSoP could
not be run" anyway we manually ran that script in some 50 systems and now its
fine as internet explorer homepage was set to this mail server, so its coming
fine now! We didn't get time to test further, sorry about that, the domain had
to be up yesterday, its running fine now...Kindly send any more links of your
articles! it was great reading....cleared a lot of things for us....One basic
question.... Should Computer Configuration policies be applied on Domain
Computers or OU of Computers? regardsAnanth :-)
On Jan 29, 2008 4:36 PM, Ananth Rajagopal <ananth.rg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jacob,Thanks once again for your great support.We are actually testing this
in a test environment of 6 systems. Except for this one script the rest all are
working fine.We will do the Gpresult at the earliest and will let you know.I
haven't checked the event viewer either, will do that right away.regardsAnanth.
On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Jakob H. Heidelberg <jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, It does sound like you did everything needed to make this work – a restart
is of course needed, but you took care of that you say. As this point it could
be great if you checked the event viewer for any error on the clients that
happens during startup. Later you might have to do advanced troubleshooting.
You should perform the GPRESULT command to see if the computer "picked up" the
policy at all. Note – you should probably test such a policy isolated the first
time (limited to an OU with only one computer system within it or alike).
/Jakob
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ananth RajagopalSent: 29. januar 2008 09:17To:
gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [gptalk] Re: Running a Batch file at user logon.
Hi Jacob,Thanks for the article. It cleared a lot of doubts.We did as you said,
but we still couldn't make it work! This how we did it... please go through it
and advice on where we went wrong!In the Group Policy Objects we created a new
policy called " Intranet Mail Srv Route"We edited the policy, we set it as
Computer Configuration>Windows Settings>scripts(Startup/Shutdown)>Startup> we
showed the UNC path to the script.The scripts is stored in
"\\Tai2D.ent\SysVol\Tai2D.ent\scripts\mailsrv_route.bat" this path and this
share is accessible from all systems in the domain. The permission to this
share is "Authenticated Users Read and Execute"Next, at the domain level we
gave "Link an existing GPO" gave this GPO and enabled enforced and link
enabled.In the Security Filter windows we added "Authenticated Users" and
"Domain Computers" Next we gave gpupdate /forceWe restarted the systems several
times but still the new route is not getting added.Please analyze the steps and
kindly inform us where we have gone wrong. Have we missed anything that you
have told us? :-)Thanks for the help!regardsAnanth :-)
On Jan 25, 2008 3:49 PM, Jakob H. Heidelberg <jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi again Ananth, As stated before it would, in most cases, be better to add the
route once and for all on the clients default gateway. But, you probably have
your reasons J I think there are some basic things about GP processing and
filtering you should take a look at. Maybe this blog will help
you:http://heidelbergit.blogspot.com/2008/01/yes-of-course-you-can-assign-group.html
Earlier you told me you want to "hit" all systems in the domain – in that case
all you have to do is:
1. Have the script file in a shared directory where Authenticated User or
Domain Computers have Read access
2. Create the GPO and point the Startup script to the shared script file
(Computer Configuration part on the GPO)
3. Link the GPO to the Domain Level (you don't have to change Permissions
or anything in this case)
4. Reboot all machines for the script to be executed (could take 2
reboots)
However – I must warn you a bit: this will execute the script during the next
startup (or two) on ALL domain computers (including servers). Note to #3: If
all of your computers are in the "My Computers OU" you could just link the GPO
here (except computers in the Domain Controllers OU would not be hit – if they
should be hit too you could link the policy to that OU too and restart them
one after the other perhaps). If this doesn't execute on the clients you must
start troubleshooting. Look in the client eventlog to spot for any errors, use
GPRESULT to be sure the GPO applies to the computers etc. However, I do expect
this to work. Regards/Jakob
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ananth RajagopalSent: 25. januar 2008 08:27To:
gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [gptalk] Running a Batch file at user logon.
Hi All,We want to add a persistent route to all systems in 192.168.2.x network
to a server having IP 192.168.3.240.We created a route.bat batch file and
copied this command Route Add 192.168.3.240 MASK 255.255.255.255 192.168.2.254
-pThis batch file was copied to
\\Server.com\SysVol\Server.com\scripts\route.bat folder.The batch file was
placed in Computer Configuration/Windows Settings/ Scripts/StartupWe created a
new group called Harmony_Sys in Builtin folder in that Domain. Created a new OU
called Harmony Systems, moved systems on which this batch file has to be run to
this OU. Made the computer a member of the group Harmony_Sys group. >From GPMC,
We applied this route policy to this Harmony Systems OU. But the new route is
not getting created. Where have we gone wrong, is the procedure
correct.regardsAnanth.
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