[gptalk] Re: Registry Key
- From: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:14:14 -0700
Right. To try and use GP file or registry permissions to hold off the
installation could be challenging. Essentially you would need to set a Deny
ACE for the security principal that is running the setup on the parent
folder or key where you're trying to prevent creation. That may not be a
very good idea in the case of system32 and the Services key because it could
break other things. I think Brian's idea of finding an SMS way to stop this
is best-but if you can't do that, I would seriously look at using Software
Restriction Policy to prevent execution of the SMS client setup instead of
trying to use permissions.
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:08 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Sounds like even more reason to work on a solution on the SMS side. That's
2000 attempts and 2000+ errors each time SMS discovery runs.
Brian Cline, Business Systems Analyst
Department of Information Technology
G&P Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct
803.739.1176 Fax
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:58 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Brian,
That was my first thought, but it is not only just one computer. It is about
2000 machines.
Thanks,
Jean
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Cline
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:44 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
The best way to do this is to use SMS to exclude this computer from
discovery. Even if the GPO works in preventing the client from being
installed, SMS will continually try to push the client every time discovery
runs and will generate errors every time.
Brian Cline, Business Systems Analyst
Department of Information Technology
G&P Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct
803.739.1176 Fax
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:07 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Hi Darren,
When I push the SMS client, it creates a ccmsetup folder in"
\system32\ccmsetup" to which it copies its installation files. If I can
prevent this folder from being created through the GPO, I think I would be
fine. Also, If I can use the GPO, to prevent the following registry key
"HKLM\sytem\CurrentControlSet\Services\ccmsetup" from being created, that
would even be better. Any idea how to accomplish that?
Thanks for all your prompt responses.
Jean
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:28 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
As little as possible J. I am recovering SMS 1.0 and 1.2 administrator.it's
a long hard road.
I'm open to understanding exactly why denying permissions to a registry key
to prevent an installation is not weird, but in all my years, it sounds
weird to me!
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:18 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
I don't know how familiar you are with sms, but I'll try your suggestion.
Thanks,
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri Jul 13 00:13:30 2007
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
How about just using Software Restriction policy to deny that setup exe from
running? I think the way you've described to prevent an install sounds kinda
screwy, to be honest.
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:38 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
I am trying to prevent sms from installing on clients and the ways to do.
That is by adding a ccmsetup key under hklm, but the permissions should be
set that the installation gets access denied when pushing the client. I am
using desktop standard to. Create that key and it works. The only problem is
that it it inherits parent permissions. I can fix the permission, but once I
reboot the test client it reverts back to administrators, crearor owner,
system etc. I would greatly appreciate if you can help please.
Thanks,
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu Jul 12 23:31:29 2007
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
That's not possible AFAIK. You can't have no permissions on a key. In that
case, it will always fall back to some default set of permissions. What are
you really trying to accomplish?
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:27 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Darren,
No matter which option I pick, the permissions still come down. What I am
trying to do, if it is possible, is to even get rid of all permissions on
the key I am adding.
Thanks,
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu Jul 12 18:58:32 2007
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Well, the two main choices let you choose whether you want permissions from
parent keys to propagate into your controlled key in addition to the
permissions you specify in the policy. If you don't-that is, if you want to
break inheritance completely with the parent keys, then you choose "do not
allow permissions to be replaced". If you do, then you choose the first
option and then within that, whether you want your permissions to be
inherited downward or not.
Hope that helps,
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:53 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Yes, which one to pick?
----- Original Message -----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu Jul 12 17:17:10 2007
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
So are you asking which one to choose?
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:05 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Darren,
I am using the gpmc's built in security', however, the options I am getting
are:
Propogate inheritable permission
Allow inheritable permissions
Don't allow permission toi be replaced.
This is where my dilemna is.
Thanks,
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu Jul 12 15:45:44 2007
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Registry Key
Jean-
There's a couple of ways to do that. You can use Group Policy's built-in
registry security capability or you could use a combination of a startup
script (assuming the key is under HKLM) and a utility like subinacl.exe to
do it.
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mesidor, Jean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:28 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Registry Key
I am trying to create a registry key to a GPO to prevent SMS installation on
some clients. I am using GPMC to do that, but I can't modify the security on
the key.. How can I achieve that please?
Thanks,
Jean
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