In general, I have seen problem with IE Maintenance refreshing properly when the "don't process unless GPOs have changed" default is set-hence the reason to use this policy below. With respect to the correct registry keys below, the bottom line is, whatever key the ADM file is pointing to is the one that should be set. If its not being set, then something is wrong with GP processing for that computer. The fact that you can also set this option within the GPExtensions key is useful but it should not replace the key in the ADM file. One typically trumps the other. However, if you can't get the Policies key to be set, then setting this through a custom ADM in the GPExtensions key is probably the next best thing to do. From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buonora, Craig (GE, Research, consultant) Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:22 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script Hello Darren: The article I posted is for January 2007 [http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306915]. The article I found you may be referencing is March 2003 {http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/6d6a13b1-b170-4fd2-a 022-a2b1af52beae1033.mspx?mfr=true]. Not sure but looks like a Microsoft issue. Have you encountered this at all where the automatic configuration script dtring does not refresh unless the registry key has been changed to "0"? The registry path you stated I do not have anywhere in my registry on any machine, I also verified that the default securty settings are set, so everyone, computers and users should be getting this setting if your registry path is correct [Authenticated Users is set to read and apply]. Any additional thoughts? Thanks, Craig _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:11 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script No, you don't need loopback. That setting is per-computer because its controlling per-computer CSE behavior. There's really no relationship between that and IE Maintenance policy. You just need to make sure that if you are setting IE Maintenance processing behavior, you are setting it on a GPO that is linked to apply to any computers that users who get IE maintenance policy will logon to. From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buonora, Craig (GE, Research, consultant) Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 5:43 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script Darren thanks again for the reply. Maybe you can help me understand something, not sure if I am making a mistake with my GPO or not. This setting for IE is a user based policy, as such the GPO is linked to the Users OU. If I set the setting Computer Configuration\Admin Templates\System\Group Policy\IE Maintenance Policy Processing which is in the Computer section of the GPO do I need to set loopback also [Which I did and set to merge]. Also, the registry key you stated below does not exist on my machine. Thanks, Craig _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:08 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script That KB seems a little odd, considering that this is already supported in Computer Configuration\Admin Templates\System\Group Policy\IE Maintenance Policy Processing. If you use that policy, the value is set under HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Group Policy\{A2E30F80-D7DE-11d2-BBDE-00C04F86AE3B} and that value is supposed to override the value listed in your KB article. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buonora, Craig (GE, Research, consultant) Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:22 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script This is the article and method to which Microsoft is pointing at to use, not the registry path is the same as the one I wrote below. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306915 I'd rather an ADM fix than change keys in everyone's registry. any other ideas? _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:07 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script Craig- When you set the "Process even if the Group Policy objects have not changed" policy, its not setting it under the GPExtensions key. It is setting it under a Policies key (don't have it off hand but you can look in the ADM for the location). That's probably why you are not seeing it. The CSE will look in the Policies key preferentially for that setting. Now I'm not sure why setting the policy does not force the behavior. In your example, "Not Configured" doesn't effect a policy that is configured, even if there are 20 of them. So it should work unless that policy is being filtered out by something. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buonora, Craig (GE, Research, consultant) Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:55 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script Darren thanks. I did do some testing and with that option checked (Process even if the Group Policy objects have not changed) that registry key does NOT change to "0" like it would need to in order for the GPO to process regardless if the GPO changed or not. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\{A2E30F80-D7DE-11d2-BBDE-00C04F86AE3 B}] "NoGPOListChanges"=dword:00000001 If I manually change this key to "0", then the GPO DOES process regardless, if I do not manually change it withing the registry, the GPO does NOT do it? What am I missing if anything here. I have seen numerous web sites on this issue and without a resolution except for manually or programatically changes that value to 0. Not sure why my GPO does not do it. If have 20 something GPO, all except for this one are "Not Configured". Does that mean if this one is configured and the others are not the others will override this one? Thanks, Craig _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:19 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script Craig- If you have a GPO that is turning off NoGPOListChanges (by setting it to 1) then you should see that in GPResults. You can also try downloading and running my GPExpert Health Reporter product (www.sdmsoftware.com/products.php) against that system, which will tell you if that option is set on a given machine for a CSE ( among other things). Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buonora, Craig (GE, Research, consultant) Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:59 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Internet Explorer Processing Issues - automatic configuration script I have an issue where my automatic configuration script does not reset after the given period of time within the GPO. Background: The GPO is not in Preference mode as I understand if it was the policy or the settings would never reset. In the policy also under the Computer Configuration portion of this GPO I have the options set to Process even if the Group Policy objects have not changed ; still the settings do not revert back if a users changes them, unless the users reboots their machine or does a manual GPO refresh. I have ~ 20 other GPO, this one is not processed first [I do not believe]. Also, I looked at the NoGPOListChanges within the registry on a few machines within the same OU that they GPO is applied. The key is set to "1' which I understand to mean this option is turned off. So my question if this key needs to be turned on (set to "0") and I did this within one (this particular GPO for IE) are my other GPO turning this option off which in turn making this option not work? How can I ensure this option is turned on and stays on? Also, am I correct in saying this option needs to be turned on? Am I missing something else within my GPO that would not make this GPO force the change to the automatic configuration script? Thanks in advance for the help. Craig