[gptalk] Re: How to Apply Policy for system in workgroup or standalone
- From: "Ranjan Babu .G" <ranjan.ganesh@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:04:00 +0530
Hi horbjorn /Alan
Thanks for good suggestion given both.
Even we suggested domain concept for their DMZ zone servers, But they are not
ready to go for domain concept in DMZ.
I have question, Any specific reason keeping standalone server in DMZ zone ? .I
found lot of client having same setup .
Thanks and Regards,
Ranjan
From: Thorbjörn Sjövold <thorbjorn.sjovold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 14:19:58 +0200
Ranjan,
I see that you have answered Alan, but unfortunately mails from you are being
stripped as (false positive) exploits by our anti-spam, so I can only see
messages where someone has replied, perhaps you have something in your
signature or something that triggers it or we just have a crappy anti-spam
system ;)
Anyway, I really agree with Alan, is there a reason why you cannot go for a
domain instead, managing workgroups are not really a cost effective solution.
But if you still want to manually edit remote local GPOs (one at a time) you
can do it this way with GPOE:
gpedit.msc /gpcomputer: mycomputer.mydomain.local
But if you really want to perform stuff in a more automated way, you’ll need to
use IGroupPolicyObject::OpenRemoteMachineGP() from a language that supports COM
vtables, i.e not scripts and VB6, and do not bother doing it from a Vista box,
since it has been removed and replaced with the undocumented
IGroupPolicyObject2 to support multiple local GPOs. And when you have opened
the GPO, you can edit the registry policy, but besides that, the rest of the GP
extensions are pretty much a black boxes. So after saying that, you should
really go for Alan’s suggestion and either create a script that you can run
somehow, or even better add the computers to a domain. You’ll definitively
benefit from it in the long run :)
HTH,
Thorbjörn Sjövold
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Alan & Margaret
Sent: den 3 maj 2007 00:59
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: How to Apply Policy for system in workgroup or standalone
Hi Ranjan,
Sorry... I don't think I can be a lot of help. As I have said, I haven't had
much experience in a non domain environment and not much script work either. I
tend to do everything in VB6.
As to running Local Policy remotely, I don't think you can. You may need to
open a terminal session on the machine and then run it from there.
If you have scripted the Registry key settings for the machine, you can try
running it from the start up directory (assuming the users have sufficient
authority and you trust them not to delete it), otherwise you will have to get
it to run from Local Group Policy, either by manually adding it on each machine
or scripting up the process.
Be aware that if you do it via a script, any changes will require a reboot of
the machine. If you were using normal Group policy on a domain, and implemented
it via Admin templates you can get it to refresh regularly.
I would question why you don't just make your life a lot simpler by creating a
domain controller and using that rather than a work group. Your machine
maintenance and User maintenance suddenly becomes a lot easier. I suspect it
would be less work than trying to get local policies doing it for you.
Alan Cuthbertson
Policy Management Software:-
http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=pol_summary.shtml
ADM Template Editor:-
http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=adm_summary.shtml
Policy Log Reporter(Free)
http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=policyreporter.shtml
-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ranjan Babu .G
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 4:03 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: How to Apply Policy for system in workgroup or standalone
Hi Alan Cuthbertson,
Very useful.
Is there is any way to open Local policy of remote system ( 2000 ,2003
servers)in workgroup .In the senior if I have common admin username /password
across the workgroup ?.Same way how to take report of all system in WG
If you have any script for this please help.
* Do you want to do different things on different machines?
Yes, We have different application (Application ,SQL ,IIS
Servers) running on 2000 and 2003 environment
* Can you easily visit each machine
Hope ,But nearly 50 can not. We can not reboot the system most of time.
* How much effort are you willing to put in up front
Ready to put effort .If you guide me I can do it fast.
As of now I created script to adding registry keys and setting security based
on CIS recommendation for system context.
Regards,
Ranjan
gptalk] Re: How to Apply Policy for system in workgroup or standalone
* From: "Alan & Margaret" <syspro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:28:52 +1000
Hi Ranjan,
It’s a long time since I have worked in a non-domain area, but I suspect the
answer depends on several things such as:-
* Do you trust the user to not try and circumvent what you are doing
* Do you want to do different things on different machines
* Can you easily visit each machine
* How much effort are you willing to put in up front
Probably the easiest way is to write a script that runs from the startup
folder. However, if you want to go beyond just adding registry keys and setting
security, using Local Group Policy may be the go, but it is rather tedious
manually running Local Group Policy on each machines. You can write code to
configure Local Group Policy, but that is a lot of up front work. You mention
ADM files. They are really a component within Local Group Policy and so are not
really relevant.
If you are setting security, you may need to run it in the Machine context
rather than the user context. This means that you need to run the script at
machine start time not logon time. This can be done from Local Group Policy,
but requires some programming work unless you manually set it up on each
machine.
Hope that helps…
Alan Cuthbertson
-----Original Message-----
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ranjan Babu .G
Sent: Monday, 30 April 2007 3:25 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] How to Apply Policy for system in workgroup or standalone
Hello Everyone ,
Our Client having 100 + server in workgroup (Mixed OS 2000 and 2003 Servers)
and would like to apply policy (As per CIS benchmark )using any method .And
also need to add additional registry entry and secure the permission for
registry key.
I want know in which is best method to apply poliocy ? .
Script/ Local POlicy editor/ADM file ?
And how to proceed and looking forward to hearing from you.
Type of servers in workgroup.
1.Applictaion Server
2.Web Server
3.SQL DB server
Regards,
Ranjan
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