Thanks to all for the suggestions. I ended up calling Microsoft to discover that the fdeploy.ini file had been written over and needed to be restored. Also the replication between the DC's was hosed. Scott ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:17 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error What about the dcgpofix <http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/48872034-1907-41 49-b6aa-9788d38209d21033.mspx?mfr=true> tool? This is obviously a last resort, but as long as you can see the current settings and duplicate them in another GPO, you should be able to use it to restore the Default Domain policy back to its initial state. Jamie Nelson | Systems Engineer | Systems Support, Information Technology | I N T E G R I S Health | Phone 405.552.0903 | Fax 405.553.5687 | http://www.integrisok.com <http://www.integrisok.com/> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warner, Scott Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:17 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Darren- The groups have full control access on the file. Scott ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:00 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Scott- Did you check the permissions on the fdeploy.ini file I mentioned earlier? You should see, at the least, that Domain Admins, Ent. Admins and GPCO have read-write on that file. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warner, Scott Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:57 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Jerry, I do not see any errors in the FRS log and we are not running McAffee. I think I am at the point of contacting Microsoft. The log files suggest that there has been an issue with GPOs since at least 2 months before I got here and everything I have tried is not resolving the issue. Thanks for your suggestions! Scott ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cruz, Jerome L Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:40 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Hmmm, Check your FRS logs and see if you are getting an ERROR_SHARING_VIOLATION on that file. Are you using McAfee as anti-virus on your DC? If you are, it may indicate an interaction with a low level driver on your DC. We recently found out (using the GPOTool utility) that a GPO we had changed wasn't replicating to all DCs. On two DCs (out of eight), one of the content files wouldn't update in SYSVOL. We started the diagnosis process and threw just about every common tool at it we could think of to find out what was locking it open (e.g. PSFile, ProMon, ProcExp, Open Session files, etc.). I even tried to copy a known good copy of the file on top of it manually (NOTE THAT THIS IS NEVER RECOMMENDED). Got an Access denied error. We opened a case with MS Premier Support and are about to test a resolution. In our situation, it appears to involve a low-level McAfee filter driver interaction (this issue was recently documented by McAfee on their web-site). Because of the low-level interaction, the lock-out doesn't show up in any common utility. We are currently about to test the following: Test and implement the NTFS "Install Override" option http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/816493/EN-US/ Also, based upon what we've been told from Microsoft, this change will help with 'stuck' GPT.Ini file updates that many GPO Admins run into (mostly in large companies and on the domain root GPOs where there are 'many' hits that keep these files locked out). Our DCs currently get 'hit' ~ 114,000 day for either direct or background GPO refreshes (and that's per each domain-level root GPO which has its own GPT.Ini file). FRS has trouble getting access to update the GPT.Ini files because of this. The FRS option noted above changes the behavior of replication. Instead of being denied access when a SYSVOL file is in "read" or "write" state, the SYSVOL file would only be locked out when in a "read" state. What we're hoping is that this changed behavior of FRS will release the lock on the content file (GptTmpl.Inf in our case) and then help prevent them in the future. If it doesn't release the lock, we know that a reboot of the DC will do so (but we'd rather NOT do that). Ultimately, only an update to the more recent version of the anti-virus engine will totally resolve our issue, but that new version is not expected for a month or two. Sigh... Jerry From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warner, Scott Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:05 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Darren, Group Policy Creator Owners have full control on that folder with no deny permissions and I still get the same error when I try to apply the policy change. Scott ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:56 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Well, if you don't have any FRS replication issues with SYSVOL, then the permissions should be the same on any DC, but I like to use the PDCe for these types of things. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warner, Scott Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:07 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Darren, Thanks! I will try that. Do I need to do this on all of the DC's or just the primary DC that the GP console resides on? Scott ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:23 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error OK. Then the next step is to look at the actual files in the SYSVOL part of the GPO. Specifically, under \\<domain>\sysvol\<domain>\Policies\<GUID <file:///\\%3cdomain%3e\sysvol\%3cdomain%3e\Policies\%3cGUID> of GPO>\User\Documents & Settings Check the permissions on that Folder and the files in that folder (should be at least one called fdeploy.ini). Make sure that the groups below have write perms on that folder and files and that there aren't any Deny ACEs. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warner, Scott Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:03 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Yes - Domain Admins, Enterprise Admins and Group Policy Creator Owners all have the correct permissions. Regards, Scott P. Warner IT Administrator HMX Tailored 101 N. Wacker Drive Chicago, IL 60606 312-357-5683 swarner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:58 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Error Scott- It sounds like someone modified the default permissions on that GPO. Have you gone into GPMC and looked at the Delegation tab on that GPO to see who has edit perms? Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warner, Scott Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:53 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Group Policy Error I just started a new gig and my predecessor had enabled folder re-direction through the Default Domain Policy. We are currently having issues with the re-direction and I was asked to axe it. 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