[gptalk] Re: GPO's and Office 2007

  • From: "Michael Pietrzak" <mpietrzak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:12:51 -0800

Unfortunately I think it is a paid for product. Something along the lines of 
SBS. It's geared towards small business, under 500 people I think.

Too bad there is nothing open source. Let's hope!

Michael

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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Robert Mariani
Sent: Wed 12/6/2006 5:33 PM
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Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPO's and Office 2007
 


Hopefully someone will find a way!

Anyway if System Center Essentials is a freebie like WSUS - i would consider 
using it
since we are only 70 users - 

Regards
Rob




On Thu, December 7, 2006 12:17 pm, Michael Pietrzak said: 



Hi
Robert,





I
did try to use that line in the config.xml to reference the MSP but seemed to 
have no
effect as I configured the MSP to not install Groove, OneNote and InfroPath but 
yet they
were all still isntalled.





Yeah, it is pretty damn frustrating. Looks as if MS is pushing more and more
people to SMS and the new System Center Essentials (scaled down SMS)





Perhaps Darren or Omar will get a chance to test this process and they will
have more insight for us.





Let
us know if you find anything out Rob.





Michael




From:
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Robert Mariani
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:19
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Michael,
Darren pointed me in the direction of your post here 
http://www.minasi.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20678

I had
a read and shook my head and thrusted my fist at Microsoft. 

Clearly MS has
screwed it on this one.

You mention the elevated privlideges with install -
normally i do this but all of our s/w is computer assigned, i can live with 
this option
- the option i cant live with is the INABILITY to apply my MSP file at all let 
alone a
MST like in the past

There is a Command option for the config.xml and I
simply called the MSP from there. 

The problem was that because the install
from GPO makes out like its finished before a user logs on the MSP runs
at that stage. But since the install/config of office does not "finish" until
a logon, the MSP fails with .


Event Type: Error 
Event Source: Application Management 
Event Category: None 
Event ID: 108 
Date: 7/12/2006 
Time: 9:59:31 AM

User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 
Description: 
Failed to apply changes to
software installation settings. Software changes could not be applied. A 
previous log
entry with details should exist. The error was : Fatal error during 
installation. 

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. 

Although the entry in the event
viewer imediatly previous to this was

Event Type: Information 
Event
Source: Application Management 
Event Category: None 
Event ID: 302 
Date: 7/12/2006 
Time: 9:59:30 AM 
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 
Computer:
PCITADMIN 
Description: 
The install of application Microsoft Office
Professional Plus 2007 from policy Office 2007 Depolyment (Mel) succeeded.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. 

Once i log on a whole raft more
of MSIInstaler events - pretty much one for every component of office s 
generated.

If MS can make the AD use their new "bells and whistles" setup.exe as
well as normal msi installs it would certainly help..


Ohh and a side
note - i also tried to deploy Windows Instant Search and what do you know - no 
MSI for
deployment... only .exe's

Rob








On Thu, December 7, 2006 11:57 am, Michael Pietrzak said: 




Shoot, sorry. I seem to have repeated a couple of the same points you made. One
big problem I am also seeing is that the 2007 deployments won't upgrade\remove 
the
existing Office install. You can log in and find both the 2003 and the 2007 
install
sitting there side by side.





Comedy.





Michael




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Rob,





You
are not alone in your findings. I have been trying to get some sort of 
functional Office
2007 deployment via GP's for going on four days now.





I
have seen everything you are writing about. Even when I do get something
deployed, it is very inconsistent. Sometimes it's just Outlook. Other times 
it's all the
components except Outlook.





It's seems they completely botched it! I could deploy Office 2003 with no
problems what so ever. And I could deploy it over any previous installation 
type. For
instance if the previous version was a CD install, a GP install, or from a 
network
share, my 2003 GP install would install over all of them.





Also, to even be able to run the install now, you must be an admin. If you want
your non-admins to be able to receive the deployment package, you need to grant 
then
windows installer rights with elevated priveledges.





The
funny thing is, despite all the problems I had in using a GP deployment, I can 
just
simply run the setup.exe from the network install point and everything works 
great. Why
can't MS just make this simple instead of needing some degree in computer
science.





Michael




From:
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Robert Mariani
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:35
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Hi Everyone.
Well I recently got my 70 licenses of Office
2007 and was keen to build a test delpoyment. I found the Office Resource Kit 
on the
Technet website and started reading. To my amasement AD GPO is not the prefered 
way to
delpoy this package.....

MS have moved away from traditional MSI and MST
files for O2K7. The Office Customisation Tool (OCT) creates a MSP file but the 
use is
not in the traditional sense of patching an admin install.

There is a way to
deploy O2k7 by GPO but bugger all configurable to say the most. The config.xml 
is a pain
to get working has extreemly limited capabilites.

My question to the group
is, has anyone sucessfully deployed this package in testing or production via 
AD GPO and
applied the msp customisations?

Ohh and two more things... 
1. The O2K7
install does not finish before the user logs in - and from what i have read if 
the first
user to log in after the depoyment does not have local admin rights to the pc 
the
install fails - i am yet to test this but i deploy apps with "Elevated
privideges" for the GPO so this may not happen
2. I noticed that there were
office ADM templates for GPO configurations. Would my best option be to install 
an
uncustomised deployment and then use the ADM templates for config?

Regards
Rob....





 



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