[gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

  • From: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:00:46 -0800

Yes. Ironically its been around for a while and is called ADMX!!!! It's a
Microsoft utility that is part of the Server 2003 Reskit.

 

I've used it and its pretty slick.

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:47 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Now that I think of it, you know what would be pretty slick? A utility that
can compare ADMs and find the differences (much like GPOVault/AGPM does with
GPOs).

 

Is there anything out there that could do that, other than text editors that
do a straight line-by-line comparison? As Vista becomes more prevalent you
wouldn't have as much of a need for something like that (because of the
'Central Store' concept), but it sure would have been handy in a scenario
like this.

 

Regards,

Jamie

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:47 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

No, the list did get them. They came through fine. Thanks Darren!

 

Michael

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

I tried sending the ADM but I think the list blocked my message. My ADMs are
dated 2-20-06

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:04 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Whew, at least I know now I'm not going crazy. Thanks Jamie!

 

Regards,

 

Michael

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:00 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Darren/Michael,

 

I just downloaded it and don't see it in there either, misspelling or not. I
have the same version as Michael apparently. However, I don't see any reason
why it couldn't be added back in manually.

 

This doesn't make any sense - for what logical reason would that policy
setting be removed from the ADM?

 

Regards,

Jamie

 

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:57 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Darren,

 

Huh, I just searched the ADM I have here with "RPC" and that policy did not
come back. Can you tell me what the date is on your ADM file? Mine shows May
10th 2007 as a creation date.

 

Michael

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:45 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Michael-

I had the Office 2003 ADM already on my system and looked in Outlk11.adm. I
found the setting you're looking for :

 

POLICY "Enable RPC encyrption"

KEYNAME Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\RPC 

                PART "Check to enforce setting on; uncheck to enforce
setting off" CHECKBOX

                                                                VALUENAME
EnableRPCEncryption

                                                                VALUEON
NUMERIC 1

                                                                VALUEOFF
NUMERIC 0

                END PART

                END POLICY

 

 

Note that used Notepad to view it and at first entered in "RPC encryption"
as the search term. For some weird reason it didn't come back. So I switched
to "RPC" and eventually found it.

 

Darren

 

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:34 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Hi Darren,

 

Nope, it's listed in the spreadsheet as a per-user setting. Here it is
copied and pasted from the spreadsheet.

 

 


Enable RPC encyrption

        Yes

        Yes

        Yes

Yes

                        Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\RPC

EnableRPCEncryption

1 | 0

        Checked: RPC Encryption is enabled. | Unchecked: RPC Encryption is
disabled.

 

The "yes" columns correspond to "new", "SP1", "SP2" and "SP3"

 

I opened up the Outlook ADM in notepad, did a search for EnableRPCEncryption
and even just RPC and nothing was in there.

 

I might try to just make a custom ADM to see if that will work. Looks like a
"bug" in the documentation as best as I can tell. You can download the
Office2003 ADM pack from that link below and take a look to confirm if I am
correct or just missing something.

 

Thanks,

 

Michael

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:23 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

So, are you saying that the spreadsheet lists it as being per-computer but
you only see it per-user?

 

Darren

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:20 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Ay carumba! This is very frustrating then. I have been scouring some fourms
and Google all morning trying to determine if this is in fact a mistake in
the documentation. Here is one quote from the MS TEchnet forums.

 

"'Enable RPC encyrption" is an option you can enable with a group policy if
you import the Outlk11.adm file.

 

instructions: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826170

 

download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=BA8BC720-EDC2-479B-
B115-5ABB70B3F490
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=BA8BC720-EDC2-479B
-B115-5ABB70B3F490&displaylang=en#QuickInfoContainer>
&displaylang=en#QuickInfoContainer

 

extract the download to find an excel spreadsheet explaining this and other
options.

 

 

Michael

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:42 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Michael-

My guess is that the spreadsheet is simply wrong. Your Outlook version will
not affect what you see in GP Editor at all. Frankly, I think the Office
team has done a fairly half-*ssed job of documenting the ADMs so it would
not surprise me if they just put them in the wrong place.

 

Darren

 

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:52 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Hi Omar,

 

Yup, I'm covered on both of those. I created an entirely new GPO and added
the Outlook 2003 ADM to it. The date on the ADM checked out as well
5\10\2007.

 

For the Outlook 2003 policies, they only appear in the User settings and not
in the Computer settings.

 

Thanks for the email Omar!

 

Michael

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Droubi
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:46 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Michael,

 

The Outlook ADM templates have to be imported into each particular GPO you
create unless you are using Vista/W2k8 and a central store. Also- once you
add in the ADM templates you should check both the computer and user
configuration nodes to see if it appears in one section but not the other.

 

Omar

 

From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Pietrzak
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:35 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] GP setting for Outlook 2003 - Not showing....

 

Hi there all. I've been trying to figure something out in the last 24 hours
that has been quite confusing. The issue I am having is this, I imported the
most recent Outlook 2003 ADM files in order to enable the option "Encrypt
RPC Communication" but the option does not appear in my group policies that
I create.

 

I confirmed that I have the right ADM by double checking the excel
spreadsheet that breaks down the various settings and sure enough, it's
there. I have triple checked my steps, extracted the ADM, created a new GP,
added the admin template, and it's just not there. I tried it on both my XP
desktop and my DC.

 

The only thing I can think of, and perhaps someone can confirm this, but do
I need Outlook 2003 SP3 in order to see that setting? I am running Outlook
2007 here on my local desktop so that's about all I can think is the only
thing holding it up.

 

If anyone has any thoughts, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Michael Pietrzak

San Diego State University

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