[gptalk] Re: Executing: Begin User Group Policy

  • From: "maria schneider" <maria_medeea1@xxxxxxx>
  • To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:33 +0200

I made a new test user and gave him the same group membership, l logged in 
about 20 times (till now) on the same client with no problem, so I suppose it 
can't be the policy, am I wrong?
I assume that the user who has this problem can log in without problem if 
another user log in and log off before him. Network? 
Well I know is hard to make presumption as long as you don't know very much 
about the whole environment... Thank you anyhow.

Maria
 
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:56:00 -0700
> Von: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>
> An: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: [gptalk] Re: Executing: Begin User Group Policy

> Well, it looks like a defragmentation is kicking off right around user
> logon. Outside of that, its hard to know the full context. The delays in
> timestamps could be relevant but note that those intervening events are on
> different processes and threads (the number in parentheses) so its hard to
> know exactly what is happening.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of maria schneider
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:40 PM
> To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gptalk] Re: Executing: Begin User Group Policy
> 
> Hello,
> thank you and sorry for answering so late but the user has been on holiday
> and i didn't have the notebook. The Profile is saved locally and is not so
> big, I made a new one but the problem is the same.
> Here another few line from the userenv.log:
> 
> =========================================================
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:655 LoadUserProfile: LoadUserProfileP succeeded
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:655 LoadUserProfile:  Returning success.  Final
> Information follows:
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:655 lpProfileInfo->UserName = <Username>
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:655 lpProfileInfo->lpProfilePath = <>
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:655 lpProfileInfo->dwFlags = 0x0
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:655 LoadUserProfile: Returning TRUE. hProfile =
> <0x9c0>
> USERENV(290.294) 18:14:23:888 IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh: Synchronous,
> Reason: policy set to SYNC
> USERENV(cc4.cc8) 18:14:39:845 LibMain: Process Name:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe
> USERENV(ff8.ffc) 18:42:42:540 LibMain: Process Name:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\defrag.exe
> USERENV(100.104) 18:42:42:603 LibMain: Process Name:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
> USERENV(7f0.650) 18:42:50:228 LibMain: Process Name:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\defrag.exe
> USERENV(1e4.1e0) 18:42:50:416 LibMain: Process Name:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
> USERENV(290.294) 19:14:21:525 IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh: Synchronous,
> Reason: policy set to SYNC
> USERENV(158.470) 19:14:21:634 EnterCriticalPolicySectionEx: Entering with
> timeout 600000 and flags 0x0
> USERENV(158.470) 19:14:21:634 EnterCriticalPolicySectionEx: User critical
> section has been claimed.  Handle = 0x1d8
> USERENV(158.470) 19:14:21:634 EnterCriticalPolicySectionEx: Leaving
> successfully.
> USERENV(158.470) 19:14:21:634 LeaveCriticalPolicySection: Critical section
> 0x1d8 has been released.
> USERENV(290.c38) 19:14:32:524 IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh: Synchronous,
> Reason: policy set to SYNC
> 
> look at the timestamps!! it takes about 1 hour to log in and it seems that
> the userinit.exe is the culprit.
> 
> Thank you for any help. I read tones of help on google but i cannot find
> the
> solution. It drives me mad.
> 
> Maria
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:04:59 +1000
> > Von: "Alan & Margaret" <syspro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > An: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Betreff: [gptalk] Re: Executing: Begin User Group Policy
> 
> > Hi Maria,
> > 
> > The second log has entries for CSyncManager trying to synchronise the
> user
> > profiles while the first does not. Could it be that you have very large
> > profiles and when you move to a new machine it takes a long time to
> > download
> > all of the contents? You say that it eventually works, suggesting that
> it
> > is
> > not hanging on a security problem. Is it a very slow link?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Alan Cuthbertson 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of maria_medeea1@xxxxxxx
> > Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 11:45 PM
> > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gptalk] Re: Executing: Begin User Group Policy
> > 
> > Hello Darren and thank you for answering.
> > I already enabled the verbose userenv logging and I compared two log
> > files:
> > one after a normal boot and another after hard reset. Here is the
> > difference:
> > 
> > the "Good" one:
> >  19:39:20:608 IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh: Synchronous, Reason: policy
> > set
> > to SYNC
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ApplyGroupPolicy: Entering. Flags = 6
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs: Starting user Group Policy
> > (Background) processing...
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs:  Verbose output to eventlog
> > requested.
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 CEvents::Report: ReportEvent failed. 
> Error
> > =
> > 1502
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 EnterCriticalPolicySectionEx: Entering
> with
> > timeout 600000 and flags 0x0
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 EnterCriticalPolicySectionEx: User
> critical
> > section has been claimed.  Handle = 0xa60
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 EnterCriticalPolicySectionEx: Leaving
> > successfully.
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 ProcessGPOs:  Machine role is 2.
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 CEvents::Report: ReportEvent failed. 
> Error
> > =
> > 1502
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 PingComputer: Adapter speed 100000000 bps
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 PingComputer:  First time:  0
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:608 PingComputer:  Fast link.  Exiting.
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:624 CEvents::Report: ReportEvent failed. 
> Error
> > =
> > 1502
> > USERENV(294.c2c) 19:39:20:624 CEvents::Report: ReportEvent failed. 
> Error
> > =
> > 1502
> > 
> > the "BAD" one:
> > 
> > IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh: Synchronous, Reason: policy set to SYNC
> > USERENV(d10.d14) 14:39:45:428 LibMain: Process Name:
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe
> > USERENV(288.bd0) 14:40:01:358 IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh:
> Synchronous,
> > Reason: policy set to SYNC
> > USERENV(288.bd0) 14:40:01:358 ApplyGroupPolicy: Entering. Flags = 6
> > USERENV(288.bd0) 14:40:01:358 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(288.bd0) 14:40:01:358 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(288.bd0) 14:40:01:358 ProcessGPOs: Starting user Group Policy
> > (Background) processing...
> > USERENV(288.bd0) 14:40:01:358 ProcessGPOs:
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:265 InitializePolicyProcessing: Initialised
> > Machine Mutex/Events
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:328 InitializePolicyProcessing: Initialised
> User
> > Mutex/Events
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:328 LibMain: Process Name:
> > \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:406 Entering CUserProfile::Initialize ...
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:406 CUserProfile::Initialize called by
> winlogon
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:406 CUserProfile::Initialize: critical section
> > initialized
> > USERENV(288.28c) 14:40:40:406 CSyncManager::Initialize: critical section
> > initialized
> > 
> > 
> > on the "bad" one, starts userinit.exe and the whole policy procedure
> > reiterate. The last lines in the "bad" log are
> > IsSyncForegroundPolicyRefresh: Synchronous, Reason: policy set to SYNC
> > LibMain: Process Name:  C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe
> > 
> > I can sometimes reboot nine or ten times without problems, and sometime
> we
> > have to remove the rechargeable battery.
> > I cannot find any causal connection.
> > 
> > If you have any ideea, please let me know. Thank you.
> > 
> > Maria
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:33:19 -0700
> > > Von: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > An: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Betreff: [gptalk] Re: Executing: Begin User Group Policy
> > 
> > > Maria-
> > > Its hard to say exactly the problem but I think the first thing to do
> > > would
> > > be to enable verbose userenv logging on that system and see if it
> shows
> > > where the time is being spent. You can post the relevant parts of the
> > log
> > > here if you want, so that we can take a look.  More info on enabling
> > that
> > > logging is here:
> > > 
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;221833
> > > 
> > > Darren
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of maria_medeea1@xxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:05 AM
> > > To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [gptalk] Executing: Begin User Group Policy
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I search for a long time the solution for a problem one client in our
> > > domain
> > > has.
> > > XP SP2 it happens randomly and after many gpupdate /force and reboots
> I
> > > still don't know why it can happen :((
> > > The Problem: we change a Laptop with a newer one for one User and
> since
> > > than
> > > he cannot sometimes to log in. It takes very long after he logs on. It
> > > hangs
> > > on "applying user settings" after I activate the verbose login it
> > remains
> > > on
> > > "Executing: Begin User Group Policy" and what helps ist a hard reset.
> > > We changed the motherboard and the harddisk (we thought it may be the
> > > hardware, but it wasn't).
> > > We reinstalled the client and made a new profile. The Problem is the
> > same.
> > > It never happens with my account (I work remotely with dom.admin
> > account).
> > > I searched the internet but I didn't find anything.
> > > What could it be?
> > > Thank you. Cheers
> > > 
> > > maria
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