[gptalk] Re: Configuring Power Options with GPP
- From: "Darren Mar-Elia" <darren@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:27:49 -0700
They will process during every refresh by default, but you can override
that. What makes them preferences is that, for the most part, a user can
override them manually.
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Salandra, Justin
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:18 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Configuring Power Options with GPP
I thought I read it somewhere that GPP would only apply once as they are
preferences and not policies. So since your Step 1 did not get applied and
the others did then the only things the computer has to apply would be step
1. Does this make sense?
Justin A. Salandra
Network Engineer
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:16 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Configuring Power Options with GPP
Positive. There appears to be something different between a foreground and
background refresh in this case. Here's another test I just did:
1) Computer Configuration set to apply "Always On" scheme (GPO has
lowest precedence)
2) User configuration set to apply "Home/Office Desk" scheme
3) User configuration set to apply "Portable/Laptop" scheme (GPO has
highest precedence and should win out regardless of foreground/background
refresh).
4) Manually set scheme to "Max Battery"
5) Reboot machine
6) Logon as user affected by policies 2 & 3. Power scheme is set to
"Portable/Laptop" (as expected).
7) Run gpupdate
8) Power scheme is set to "Always On" from GPO in step 1.
So, it appears that the schemes I configured on the user side are being
totally ignored when GPP processes during a background refresh. Surely this
is not by design is it?
Regards,
Jamie Nelson | Systems Engineer | Systems Support, Information Technology |
I N T E G R I S Health | Phone 405.552.0903 | Fax 405.553.5687 |
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From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:46 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Configuring Power Options with GPP
Interesting Jamie-So the default GPP behavior is to refresh settings during
each foreground and background refresh. There is an option to only refresh
once. You're sure that that user power setting does not have that option
set?
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:03 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Configuring Power Options with GPP
Yep, they are both there in the XML. Just don't understand why it is
assigning the "Always On" when "Presentation" is being set in a GPO higher
in the precedence order. The really weird thing is that it is applied
correctly after logon. It is only after a background refresh that it appears
to be processing the merged rules in the reverse order.
Doing some testing, I'm not even sure if I need to configure both sides
(like you do with EZ GPO). In GPP, even if no user side scheme is assigned
it appears that whatever scheme configured on the computer side (if any) is
set for the logged on user. So, right now I've disabled user configuration
on my top level GPO (so only one user side scheme is getting applied) and
everything appears to be working the way I want it.
Jamie Nelson | Systems Engineer | Systems Support, Information Technology |
I N T E G R I S Health | Phone 405.552.0903 | Fax 405.553.5687 |
<http://www.integrisok.com/> http://www.integrisok.com
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:49 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Configuring Power Options with GPP
Jamie-
That's a good one. It sounds like whatever merging rules they are applying
to this are not respecting basic GP Settings merging rules. I believe GPP
settings are cached under All Users\AppData. Can you see the resulting XML
files in there for that user and if so, do they show both settings?
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:51 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Configuring Power Options with GPP
Hi All,
Been messing with the Power Options in GPP and am running into a problem.
I've used the same settings (in PolicyMaker) to do basic power management
before but haven't run into this issue.
I have a GPO at the top of my hierarchy where I have configured both the
computer and user side of the GPO to set the active Power Scheme to "Always
On". Further down on a sub OU containing user objects, I have configured
just the USER side to set the scheme to "Presentation". Now here is the
weird part; immediately after logging on with a user account in the sub OU,
the Power Scheme is set to "Presentation" as I have desired it to. However,
when the background policy refresh occurs it is getting set back to "Always
On" for some reason.
When I do an GP Results Wizard query, the user side settings from both GPOs
are present with a message stating:
"The following settings have applied to this object. Within
this category, settings nearest the top of the report are the prevailing
settings when resolving conflicts."
"Always On" is listed first but I don't understand where that priority is
being set since the "Presentation" scheme is being set in a GPO with higher
precedence.
With the EZ GPO tool from the EPA, anything you configured on the computer
side only applied when no user was logged on to the machine. User side
policy only affected logged on users. Does this same concept apply to GPP?
If not, I guess I don't understand GPP Power Options as well as I thought I
did. J Someone care to explain the difference between configuring schemes on
the computer side vs. the user side? What kind of behavior is to be expected
when schemes are configured for both?
Regards,
Jamie Nelson | Systems Engineer | Systems Support, Information Technology |
I N T E G R I S Health | Phone 405.552.0903 | Fax 405.553.5687 |
<http://www.integrisok.com/> http://www.integrisok.com
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