[gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
- From: Shane Williford <shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:02:34 -0500
Thank you Jamie...I'll read up on it. I appreciate all the info! :)
Shane M. Williford
Systems Administrator
MCSE, MCSA Sec, Sec+, Net+, A+
Mazuma Credit Union
9300 Troost
Kansas City, MO 64131
shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx>
816-361-4194 x6012
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:00 PM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
Shane,
Yes, you can use it; and yes, you need at least one Server 2008 or Vista SP1
system from which to create/edit GPOs using that CSE.
The other thing you'll have to do is deploy the CSE to all of the systems you
want to manage. List member Jakob Heidelberg wrote a nifty script to install it
via computer startup (available
here<http://heidelbergit.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-to-install-gpp-cses-using-startup.html>)
or if your organization already uses WSUS, the CSEs for the different OSes are
published there. Just keep in mind that some XP/2003 systems might need a
prereq hotfix first.
If you're interested, there is tons of reading on the subject. I've included a
few links of interest below.
Group Policy Preferences Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ)<http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/technologies/featured/gp/preferencesfaq.mspx>
Information about new Group Policy preferences in Windows Server
2008<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943729> (Includes download links for CSE)
GP Policy vs. Preference vs. GP
preferences<http://blogs.technet.com/grouppolicy/archive/2008/03/04/gp-policy-vs-preference-vs-gp-preferences.aspx>
(explains the differences in terminology)
Group Policy Preferences
Overview<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=42e30e3f-6f01-4610-9d6e-f6e0fb7a0790&displaylang=en>
(Microsoft white paper)
Group Policy Preferences
Screencast<http://edge.technet.com/Media/Group-Policy-Preferences-Screencast/>
(Demonstration of how to configure preference items)
Group Policy related changes in Windows Server
2008<http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Group-Policy-related-changes-Windows-Server-2008-Part3.html>
(WindowsSecurity.com walkthrough by Jakob; Parts 3-4 are specifically related
to GPP)
Regards,
Jamie Nelson | Infrastructure Consultant | BI&T Operations | Devon Energy |
Work: 405.552.8054 | http://www.dvn.com<http://www.dvn.com/>
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Shane Williford
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:31 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
Wow...if only I could get rid of, or virtually diminish logon scripting! :)
My org is 2K3 SP2 and clients are XP. Can I use that tool, or do I have to have
at least 1 2K8 or vista SP1 box?
Looks like I need to do more reading on this...thanks for all that info
Jamie...it's MUCH appreciated!
Shane M. Williford
Systems Administrator
MCSE, MCSA Sec, Sec+, Net+, A+
Mazuma Credit Union
9300 Troost
Kansas City, MO 64131
shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx>
816-361-4194 x6012
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:28 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
GPP stands for Group Policy Preferences. It is a new client side extension
(CSE) for Group Policy that extends control of what you can do to things like
Power Management in Windows XP, adding/changing registry entries, mapping
drives/printers, copying files, etc. Believe me, that is only the beginning of
what you can do. As Darren said, the days of startup/logon scripting are
virtually over, unless of course you're doing something extremely complex.
GPP developed from a DesktopStandard product called PolicyMaker that was sold
as a third party add-on to Group Policy. It was so innovative that Microsoft
bought it up and included it for FREE with Server 2008, and of course renamed
it. It is basically the exact same product, although some functionality was
removed from the original version and Microsoft changed the item-level
targeting interface.
Understand that a Server 2008 domain is not required for this. The only catch
is that you have to have to run GPMC from a Server 2008 or Vista SP1 RSAT
system to create and edit the policies. Of course, you'll also have to deploy
the CSE to your Windows XP, Vista, and Server 2003 systems before they'll be
able to read and understand the GPP specific settings. Unfortunately, GPP is
not available for Windows 2000.
Jamie Nelson | Infrastructure Consultant | BI&T Operations | Devon Energy |
Work: 405.552.8054 | http://www.dvn.com<http://www.dvn.com/>
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Shane Williford
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:09 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
May I ask what GPP is? Is that new in Vista/2K8?
Shane M. Williford
Systems Administrator
MCSE, MCSA Sec, Sec+, Net+, A+
Mazuma Credit Union
9300 Troost
Kansas City, MO 64131
shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx>
816-361-4194 x6012
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:08 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
Yep. My new mantra is that with GPP, you should never have to run a script
(logon or startup) based configuration task again.
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason B. Halladay
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:42 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
Thanks Darren. I'll take a look (again) at that. I remembered that we also
use the start script to remove certain groups from the local administrators
group so we'll need to continue with the scripts or go to GPPs. I just worked
with GPPs yesterday for the first time (in a class) and am very impressed with
what can be done now using said GPPs. Many of the tasks that we currently use
GPO startup scripts to do can now be done much easier and cleaner using GPPE.
Now to deploy the GPP CSEs to all our clients.... :)
Jason
On 6/18/08 8:48 AM, Darren Mar-Elia wrote:
Jason-
There are two sides to Restricted Groups. If you open the dialog you see
"Members of this Group" at the top and "This group is a member of" at the
bottom. So, lets say you wanted to add the "Help Desk Admins" group to the
local Administrators group on a set of workstations. You would right-click the
Restricted Groups node, choose Add Group and enter in or browse "Help Desk
Admins". Then, in the "This group is a member of" dialog, you would add the
local Administrators group and, voilá!
Hope that helps.
Darren
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason B. Halladay
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:41 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] Re: Adding an account to a local group
Hi Jamie,
I am one of those that believe Restricted Groups doesn't just "add" an account
to the local administrators group without removing any other members. Can you
explain (or point me to a reference on) how to use "restricted groups" to
simply add another member without removing any members?
We most commonly use group policy to run a startup script that adds members to
the local administrators group. This works well but if using the restricted
groups policy would work, that would be one less script we'd have to maintain.
Thanks,
Jason
On 6/13/08 7:58 AM, Nelson, Jamie wrote:
You can do this with Restricted Groups policy. Normally people think of it as
only able to mirror the membership listed (I was one of them), but you can
actually use it to "add" a member without removing any of the existing ones.
Other options would be to use a computer startup script, or the GPP extensions.
GPP doesn't REQUIRE 2008 Server to work; you just have to have it or Vista SP1
(with RSAT pack) from which to create/edit GPOs utilizing those extensions.
Jamie Nelson | Infrastructure Consultant | BI&T Operations | Devon Energy |
Work: 405.552.8054 | http://www.dvn.com<http://www.dvn.com/>
From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Finkbiner
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:21 AM
To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gptalk] Adding an account to a local group
I would like to add an account to the local administrators group on an OU. I've
been browsing through Computer Configuration options and I don't see anything
promising. Does anyone one have a suggestion?
No, I do not have the ability to use server 2008 options. :)
Jonathan Finkbiner
Support Analyst
Information Services
Lifestyle Family Fitness
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