Note the link from Ted. I've seen this big boys lounging around in Monterey and they're not kidding. -----Original Message----- From: Ted [mailto:tedstjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:44 PM To: John Wandling Subject: You think sea gulls are bad John, Please check out the below link and forward it to the sail and boating club members. It made me realize that our bird problem was not so bad. Ted http://resourcescommittee.house.gov/108cong/fish/2003aug19/anderson.htm