[gps-talkusers] Re: safety while using GPS

If you have (or would have) good hearing aids, especially digital hearing
aids (which will not whistle when covered), then good, must-be-comfortable,
over-the-ear Walkman
stereo headphones they do not much mask the other sounds compared with what 
you normally hear with these digitals.   And you also thereby
have
a nice base sound in which you hear your brailleNote or VoiceNote or
whatever unit relating the GPS information to you as you want it .

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] safety while using GPS


I too would hesitate to wearing headphones, even if they are the smaller
earbuds while traveling. For our Voice Sense testing, I've simply wore
the Voice Sense hanging from the shoulder strap. It's either in front of
my on my chest or on my side. Using the one-handed commands is enough
for me to get most of the information I need. If things require two
hands, then it's enough that I won't be walking in the first place to do
that, such as searching for intersections, pois, or addresses.

I sort of attribute this behavior to how a sighted driver would not need
to be on the phone while driving, sure many do it, and sure, mahy are
safe, but it's been a proven fact that the attention span of a driver
drops more than 20% while they are holding a phone to their ear while
driving.

Jon Goodman said the following on 11/15/2007 1:43 PM:
> I've seen a mechanical cane and the person wore head phones and they got
> audio feed back through the cane, i think i saw a pair of glasses to
> that would give the person feed back, but it was a while ago.  I don't
> even like talking on the phone when i'm out.  The gps works because it
> isn't near or covering my ears, but it would concern me without that
> feedback.  The blind deaf community get a lot of respect from me...
> -Jon
> email: j.goodman82@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "shayna Malov"
> <malkyganz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:30 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Personal Guidance System
>
>
>> HI Michael,
>>
>> I think that such a detailed system could be valuable  as an addition
>> to any GPS system.  Except for the fact that you mentioned regarding
>> the sterio headset.
>>
>> Shayna
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May"
>> <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:17 PM
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Personal Guidance System
>>
>>
>>> I finally know what Scott is talking about. Nick is at UC Santa
>>> Barbara and is involved with their Personal Guidance System which
>>> works only on the university campus. The user wears a pair of stereo
>>> headphones, no goggles. The PGS announces the location of a
>>> particular building with a stereo image representing where that
>>> building is relative to the way you are looking. So, if it is off to
>>> your right, you will here, Jones Hall, 125 feet to your right and you
>>> hear this in your right ear.  If you turn your head toward Jones
>>> Hall, you will hear that it is in front of you. As you get closer,
>>> the announcement gets louder and louder. This sort of spatial
>>> information is extremely valuable. The major hitch is that you have
>>> stereo headphones covering your ears so it isn't practical in other
>>> than a research environment. This is actually one of the first GPS
>>> systems ever developed going back to 1993.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> At 10:01 AM 11/15/2007, you wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure that was theoretical, I'm not sure how much it was
>>>> actually tested.  A long long long time childhood friend was
>>>> involved in the project. Should you have any interest you can put
>>>> "Nick Giudice GPS navigation" in to google and find his paper.  I
>>>> know for absolute certainty that he uses the Sindero GPS running I
>>>> forget on which platform (Braille note I think but I'm not sure
>>>> which version) because he gave me a quick demo when he visited about
>>>> a month ago.  I was impressed with the detail the package had about
>>>> my neighborhood and the local businesses. (even some of the mom and
>>>> pop locations near my home)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Parks" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:06 AM
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps and guide dogs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am referring to the goggle idea where a dog follows a dot it sees
>>>>> in front of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Bill Gallik" <wfgallik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:21:53 -0600
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps and guide dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never had a problem with Holland because of my GPS.  In
>>>>> fact, because
>>>>>> I'm so much more relaxed Holland's behavior is likewise much more
>>>>> relaxed
>>>>>> and much more vigilant for hazard.
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>> Bill Gallik
>>>>>> E-Mail: wfgallik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> - "First there is a time when we believe everything, then for a
>>>>> little while
>>>>>> we believe with discrimination, then we believe nothing
>>>>> whatever,"
>>>>>> - "and then we believe everything again - and, moreover, give
>>>>> reasons why we
>>>>>> believe."
>>>>>> - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg
>>>>>> - "It is better to know some of the questions than all of the
>>>>> answers."
>>>>>> - James Thurber
>>>>>> - "When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had
>>>>> happened or
>>>>>> not."
>>>>>> - Mark Twain
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Alex Parks" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:55 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps and guide dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't use a dog, but I wonder if this could be bad as it would
>>>>>> lessen the dog's obedience to the master's commands? I love
>>>>>> computers, but I am not sure this is such a great idea.  There
>>>>>> are probably many angles I am missing, though, and I hope Sendero
>>>>>> continues to lead the industry in whatever direction this
>>>>>> potential technology takes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Date sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:39:47 -0700
>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps and guide dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The dog might go faster if it looks like a Squirrel or Rabbit.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Raul A.  Gallegos" <raul@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:08 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps and guide dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Scott.  That is great.  I'm always willing to be educated.
>>>>>> So, I
>>>>>>>> wonder, could this dot be made to look like a steak or a cat?
>>>>>> Hmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott Granados said the following on 11/14/2007 1:59 PM:
>>>>>>>>> more specifically Sindero software in the core, that's what I
>>>>>> should have
>>>>>>>>> said.  And actually there's some goggle technology as well as
>>>>>> micro
>>>>>>>>> projectors that would probably be nonintrusive enough to a dog
>>>>>> to not be
>>>>>>>>> an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A.  Gallegos"
>>>>>> <raul@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: gps and guide dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, how many dogs do you know of who will stand for wearing
>>>>>> goggles?
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Sendero does not make the actual GPS technology, but
>>>>>> instead makes
>>>>>>>>>> a product which utilizes gps technology.  I could have
>>>>>> misunderstood your
>>>>>>>>>> message.  So if I did, I apologize.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scott Granados said the following on 11/14/2007 1:53 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of GPS and guide dogs.  I've read papers concerning
>>>>>> using a
>>>>>>>>>>> GPS device (I believe a Sindero product) to supply data to a
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>> that projects a dot in space using modified goggles to the dog
>>>>>>>>>>> directly.  The dog can follow the dot that's actuated by the GPS
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>> special software and receive direct feedback concerning the
>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>>>>> traveled.  (need to take a right, the dot travels right)  Sort
>>>>>> of like
>>>>>>>>>>> a hightech version of chase the laser pointer like you might
>>>>>> play with
>>>>>>>>>>> a cat.  Interesting idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melinda Rauch"
>>>>>> <mrauch@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:54 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] gps and guide dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shanna,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Melinda and Smokey, My Mellow Fellow here,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also use my gps along with my guide dog.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care, and be safe out there!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your friends always,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Melinda and Smokey My Mellow Fellow and April, now our angel
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>>>> mrauch@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Raul A.  Gallegos ..  GW Micro Technical Support
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>>>>>>>>>> FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Raul A.  Gallegos ..  GW Micro Technical Support
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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