[gps-talkusers] Re: my first trip with 4.0--not good

Hi,
that was a typo on Charles's part.
he was referring to the gpslim236.
there is no such receiver as the gpslim 237 (smile).
Chris
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:54:43 -0700, you wrote:

>I heard you mention the Holux Slim
>237 (Sirf III) GPS receiver. Can this be bought from Sendero?
>
>Sharonda
>
>On 7/29/07, James Malone <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Its Eudora.
>> This is why I went to Outlook.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles LaPierre
>> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:19 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: my first trip with 4.0--not good
>>
>> Sorry about the duplicate messages everyone, For some reason Eudora is being
>> funny and putting into the To field two copies of gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> when I sometimes reply to messages.  Its driving me nuts.  Has anyone else
>> have this happen?
>> I think my machine is possessed!
>>
>> Charles.
>>
>> At 08:12 PM 7/29/2007, you wrote:
>> >Hi Alex, let me try to explain some issues you are encountering.
>> >See below.
>> >
>> >At 06:27 PM 7/29/2007, Alex Parks wrote:
>> >>Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>I just tried to walk a simple, half-mile route then come back.
>> >>Because of the Blue Logger I had to create the route partway through,
>> >>but as soon as I did I had "skipped 2 points along route".
>> >>How could I since I had created the route not five seconds previous to
>> >>that message?
>> >
>> >A possible reason why this may occur.
>> >GPS does jump around and before you created the route your GPS position
>> >could have been quite far from where you are, and therefor the starting
>> >point you already passed and then the nearest point may be a
>> >non-turning waypoint and therefore the next waypoint you are trying to
>> >get to is the next turn at Waypoint #3.
>> >
>> >Waypoint 1 is the GPS location when you pressed create route, Waypoint
>> >#2 is either going to be the next intersection ahead (if your GPS
>> >location is less than 50 feet from the nearest street), or Waypoint #2
>> >is going to be  the perpendicular bisection from the GPS location to a
>> >point on the street which forms a 90 degree angle) (i.e. a straight
>> >line from your GPS to the street) which will be a turning point on the
>> >street and then Waypoint #3 will be the next intersection.
>> >
>> >So after the route is created then the system looks to see where your
>> >new "current" location is along the route and will take distance
>> >readings between yourself and WP1, WP2, WP3 etc.  and if you are closer
>> >to WP3 then it will say skipped x number of waypoints.
>> >
>> >Sorry if that is confusing, but behind the scene that is what is going
>> >on, the system is constantly looking to see if you are on route, which
>> >waypoints you are closer to and if you never reach a specific one and
>> >you are all of a sudden closer to a waypoint further down your route
>> >that is when you will get the skipped x # of waypoints along your
>> >route.  Unless you turn on "Force sequential route following"  Then it
>> >won't skip waypoints.
>> >
>> >
>> >>Anyway, all turns were announced very early and I kept getting
>> >>sequences of messages like "Approaching xxx street in 250 ft."
>> >>"Turn right on xxx street". "xxx street, 100 ft ahead". Why would it
>> >>say I was approaching, tell me to turn, then tell me I had not even
>> >>reached the street onto which it just told me to turn??? BTW, my
>> >>accuracy through this little treck was between 25 and 54 ft (4-7
>> >>satellites).
>> >
>> >Ok first it sounds like you also have Lookaround mode "Intersections"
>> >turned on, this could be causing the duplicate messages about upcoming
>> >intersections as well as the route announcements.
>> >
>> >The system will give you 2 messages, one announcing the "Approaching"
>> >turn, and then when you get closer to the turn a "Turn Now" message.
>> >These messages are should be announced ahead of time, to give you
>> >enough time to prepare yourself for the upcoming turn.  With GPS error
>> >and map error the last thing we want to do is for you to actually hit
>> >the street, cross the street and then the system tells you "oh by the
>> >way that was the street you were soposto turn on".
>> >
>> >The BlueLogger by the way isn't as accurate as the newer Holux Slim
>> >237 (Sirf III) GPS receiver which is smaller, alot more accurate, and
>> >has a very fast time to first fix (I usually get a GPS fix within about
>> >15-20 seconds).
>> >
>> >>I love the new interface and bluetooth receiver handling. I love the
>> >>new POI database and other updates to the maps. The routes and
>> >>accuracy are quite bad, though. I will say they are not as bad as they
>> >>were in 3.5, but it is like routes are planned from either your
>> >>starting or ending point in a previous route or something and not from
>> >>where you are at the time at which you create the route. I must just
>> >>be lucky--I seem to always be the one with the bad experiences with
>> >>these updates. <smile
>> >
>> >Alex this doesn't sound right, the system does pick your current GPS
>> >location as the starting point (as long as you are in GPS mode.  If you
>> >are in Virtual mode it will pick your Virtual location as the starting
>> >point.
>> >
>> >Please send me a route in your opinion is "bad" and I will look to see
>> >what the system did.  Also tell me what the route should have done
>> >instead.  Also it may help to send me a "Replay" of your GPS when you
>> >create the route so I can see what is going on.
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>> >Charles.
>> >
>> >
>> >>Have a great day,
>> >>Alex
>> >
>> >Charles M. La Pierre CTO
>> >Sendero Group, LLC
>> >
>> >Lat. 37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W
>> >
>>
>> Charles M. La Pierre CTO
>> Sendero Group, LLC
>>
>> Lat. 37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W
>>
>>
>>
>>

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