[gps-talkusers] Re: map data

Hello Mike,

The reason that I ask this is because in the Denver area there are so many 
new developments going in that being able to map new streets would be nice.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:50 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: map data


> Jerry,
>
> As I say, we cannot modify the core map data. Streets don't change all 
> that
> much so I don't think this is a big problem. You can certainly put a user
> POI at a new street until the street data are updated.
>
> Mike
> At 04:11 AM 3/16/2005, you wrote:
>>Is there a way that a package could be developed that would allow people 
>>to
>>use any map data that they wanted, and then modify it if they wanted?  For
>>example right now in either GPS system if there is a new street created we
>>can label it as a POI or create a string of POIS to follow its root.But we
>>can't actually add it to the map database.  Gerry
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:04 AM
>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] map data
>>
>>
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > There are different levels of map data that the map suppliers offer
>> > vendors. We license the highest quality type they offer. We can't 
>> > change
>> > the street map data.
>> >
>> > Our added value is in how the data is communicated to the user. 90% of 
>> > the
>> > verbosity we offer would be of little interest to most sighted users. 
>> > Mass
>> > market talking GPS products are geared to announce that it is time to 
>> > turn
>> > but they don't tell you the name of the street or the cross street. You
>> > can't of course use the menus or set a route to begin with. Sendero's
>> > software adds the verbosity a blind user needs.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 04:33 AM 3/15/2005, you wrote:
>> >>Hey I am sorry if I spoke in the wrong context.
>> >>
>> >>Both GPS systems for the blind use maps that are commercially produced 
>> >>for
>> >>us and other companies.  I do believe that the data is played with for 
>> >>our
>> >>use, so I don't know how useful these maps would be in there original
>> >>condition.
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:14 PM
>> >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello, Gerry,
>> >> > Please tell us about those commercial maps and how you are able to 
>> >> > use
>> >> > them.
>> >> >  I still can't get mine to work.  My most recent effort has been on 
>> >> > the
>> >> > Rand Mcnally Street Finder map CD set.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dick Myers
>> >> >
>> >> > From: "gerry leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
>> >> > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:32:08 -0700
>> >> >
>> >> > we already use commercial maps.
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Catherine Close" <cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:52 PM
>> >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Mike, I appreciate what your company has done with GPS.  I regret
>> >> > > that
>> >> > has
>> >> > > to be competition for the small market for such a specialized
>> >> > > product.
>> >> > > I
>> >> > > want a fantasy world where all the best features from everyone's
>> >> > > systems
>> >> > > can
>> >> > > be incorporated in to one super GPS system.  I am a person who is
>> >> > > really
>> >> > > interested in GPS but troubled by the available options.  I bought
>> >> > > one
>> >> > > of
>> >> > > the BX Pacmates when they came out as I felt this was the most
>> >> > > versatile
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > advanced technology available at the time and the best for work
>> >> > > situations.
>> >> > > However, the GPS for PM remains an unknown quantity.  Although GPS 
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > important, I like the fact that I can use my display separately 
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > use
>> >> > > commercially available applications.  IF the PM option doesn't 
>> >> > > work I
>> >> > > may
>> >> > > have to think about a unit such as the Trekker.  The PK sounds 
>> >> > > like a
>> >> > nice
>> >> > > little unit, but I can't imagine spending such a large amount for
>> >> > > another
>> >> > > notetaker just to get a smaller GPS.  With 70 per cent of the 
>> >> > > blind
>> >> > > unemployed or unemployed, a low-cost option is really needed which
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> > > have to be replaced often.  It would be great if commercial maps
>> >> > > could
>> >> > > be
>> >> > > combined with the best blind-friendly features.  In my fantasy 
>> >> > > more
>> >> > > cooperation and less competition would result in better products,
>> >> > > more
>> >> > > sales, and more satisfied customers.  You can tell I didn't major 
>> >> > > in
>> >> > > Business.  Now back to the real world!  Cathy
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Catherine Close
>> >> > > cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael 
>> >> > > May
>> >> > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:05 PM
>> >> > > To: GPS-talkusers-freelists.org
>> >> > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] the best of all worlds
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regarding recent comments about the best of Trekker and 
>> >> > > BrailleNote
>> >> > > in
>> >> > one
>> >> > > system. I have to say that the one-pound BrailleNote PK with a
>> >> > > Bluetooth
>> >> > > GPS
>> >> > > receiver weighing a couple ounces is amazingly small and the lack 
>> >> > > of
>> >> > wires
>> >> > > is wonderful. I dare say Trekker weighs more than that altogether.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Now to the issue of price. If as many blind people or their 
>> >> > > funding
>> >> > > agencies
>> >> > > bought GPS as purchased a screen reader, the price could probably 
>> >> > > be
>> >> > > cut
>> >> > > in
>> >> > > half. The blindness market is small and GPS purchases are a small
>> >> > > portion
>> >> > > of
>> >> > > an already small market. In order to have a low priced GPS, it 
>> >> > > will
>> >> > > have
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > be an off-the-shelf mass market product. In that case, you will 
>> >> > > have
>> >> > > a
>> >> > low
>> >> > > price but reduced functionality and support. We just need to be
>> >> > > realistic
>> >> > > that there are trade offs between price and functionality.
>> >> > > We can't have our cake and eat it too.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > We are hopeful that with more users out there and more education 
>> >> > > of
>> >> > > rehab
>> >> > > folks and O&M instructors, the blindness
>> >> > >
>> >> > >  GPS market will grow so we can continue to bring you more and 
>> >> > > more
>> >> > > features and maybe even lower prices.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Several of us from Sendero monitor this list and we take your
>> >> > > suggestions
>> >> > > very seriously. Sendero just past its 5 year anniversary and we 
>> >> > > are
>> >> > > very
>> >> > > grateful for your customer loyalty. We have come a long way in 
>> >> > > that
>> >> > > time
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > we look forward to more major strides over the next five years.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Michael G. May
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > CEO Sendero Group
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS Distributing
>> >> > > BrailleNote,
>> >> > > VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T tactile watch, Talks cell
>> >> > > phone
>> >> > > software and the ID Mate, bar code reader
>> >> > >
>> >> > > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > http://www.SenderoGroup.com
>> >> > >
>> >> > > (1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 Sendero
>> >> > > Group,
>> >> > > LLC
>> >> > > 1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North
>> >> > > Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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