[gps-talkusers] Re: map data

Jerry,

As I say, we cannot modify the core map data. Streets don't change all that 
much so I don't think this is a big problem. You can certainly put a user 
POI at a new street until the street data are updated.

Mike
At 04:11 AM 3/16/2005, you wrote:
>Is there a way that a package could be developed that would allow people to
>use any map data that they wanted, and then modify it if they wanted?  For
>example right now in either GPS system if there is a new street created we
>can label it as a POI or create a string of POIS to follow its root.But we
>can't actually add it to the map database.  Gerry
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:04 AM
>Subject: [gps-talkusers] map data
>
>
> > Jerry,
> >
> > There are different levels of map data that the map suppliers offer
> > vendors. We license the highest quality type they offer. We can't change
> > the street map data.
> >
> > Our added value is in how the data is communicated to the user. 90% of the
> > verbosity we offer would be of little interest to most sighted users. Mass
> > market talking GPS products are geared to announce that it is time to turn
> > but they don't tell you the name of the street or the cross street. You
> > can't of course use the menus or set a route to begin with. Sendero's
> > software adds the verbosity a blind user needs.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:33 AM 3/15/2005, you wrote:
> >>Hey I am sorry if I spoke in the wrong context.
> >>
> >>Both GPS systems for the blind use maps that are commercially produced for
> >>us and other companies.  I do believe that the data is played with for our
> >>use, so I don't know how useful these maps would be in there original
> >>condition.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:14 PM
> >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello, Gerry,
> >> > Please tell us about those commercial maps and how you are able to use
> >> > them.
> >> >  I still can't get mine to work.  My most recent effort has been on the
> >> > Rand Mcnally Street Finder map CD set.
> >> >
> >> > Dick Myers
> >> >
> >> > From: "gerry leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
> >> > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:32:08 -0700
> >> >
> >> > we already use commercial maps.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Catherine Close" <cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:52 PM
> >> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Mike, I appreciate what your company has done with GPS.  I regret
> >> > > that
> >> > has
> >> > > to be competition for the small market for such a specialized
> >> > > product.
> >> > > I
> >> > > want a fantasy world where all the best features from everyone's
> >> > > systems
> >> > > can
> >> > > be incorporated in to one super GPS system.  I am a person who is
> >> > > really
> >> > > interested in GPS but troubled by the available options.  I bought
> >> > > one
> >> > > of
> >> > > the BX Pacmates when they came out as I felt this was the most
> >> > > versatile
> >> > > and
> >> > > advanced technology available at the time and the best for work
> >> > > situations.
> >> > > However, the GPS for PM remains an unknown quantity.  Although GPS is
> >> > > important, I like the fact that I can use my display separately and
> >> > > use
> >> > > commercially available applications.  IF the PM option doesn't work I
> >> > > may
> >> > > have to think about a unit such as the Trekker.  The PK sounds like a
> >> > nice
> >> > > little unit, but I can't imagine spending such a large amount for
> >> > > another
> >> > > notetaker just to get a smaller GPS.  With 70 per cent of the blind
> >> > > unemployed or unemployed, a low-cost option is really needed which
> >> > doesn't
> >> > > have to be replaced often.  It would be great if commercial maps
> >> > > could
> >> > > be
> >> > > combined with the best blind-friendly features.  In my fantasy more
> >> > > cooperation and less competition would result in better products,
> >> > > more
> >> > > sales, and more satisfied customers.  You can tell I didn't major in
> >> > > Business.  Now back to the real world!  Cathy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Catherine Close
> >> > > cclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:05 PM
> >> > > To: GPS-talkusers-freelists.org
> >> > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] the best of all worlds
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding recent comments about the best of Trekker and BrailleNote
> >> > > in
> >> > one
> >> > > system. I have to say that the one-pound BrailleNote PK with a
> >> > > Bluetooth
> >> > > GPS
> >> > > receiver weighing a couple ounces is amazingly small and the lack of
> >> > wires
> >> > > is wonderful. I dare say Trekker weighs more than that altogether.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now to the issue of price. If as many blind people or their funding
> >> > > agencies
> >> > > bought GPS as purchased a screen reader, the price could probably be
> >> > > cut
> >> > > in
> >> > > half. The blindness market is small and GPS purchases are a small
> >> > > portion
> >> > > of
> >> > > an already small market. In order to have a low priced GPS, it will
> >> > > have
> >> > > to
> >> > > be an off-the-shelf mass market product. In that case, you will have
> >> > > a
> >> > low
> >> > > price but reduced functionality and support. We just need to be
> >> > > realistic
> >> > > that there are trade offs between price and functionality.
> >> > > We can't have our cake and eat it too.
> >> > >
> >> > > We are hopeful that with more users out there and more education of
> >> > > rehab
> >> > > folks and O&M instructors, the blindness
> >> > >
> >> > >  GPS market will grow so we can continue to bring you more and more
> >> > > features and maybe even lower prices.
> >> > >
> >> > > Several of us from Sendero monitor this list and we take your
> >> > > suggestions
> >> > > very seriously. Sendero just past its 5 year anniversary and we are
> >> > > very
> >> > > grateful for your customer loyalty. We have come a long way in that
> >> > > time
> >> > > and
> >> > > we look forward to more major strides over the next five years.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Michael G. May
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > CEO Sendero Group
> >> > >
> >> > > Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS Distributing
> >> > > BrailleNote,
> >> > > VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T tactile watch, Talks cell
> >> > > phone
> >> > > software and the ID Mate, bar code reader
> >> > >
> >> > > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > http://www.SenderoGroup.com
> >> > >
> >> > > (1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 Sendero
> >> > > Group,
> >> > > LLC
> >> > > 1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA
> >> > >
> >> > > Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North
> >> > > Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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