Hi, Some things worth noting about loadstone... first. by obtaining and using tools from www.rmpro-hosting.com/ls/ www.loadstone-gps.pl/groute along with a database importer and command line open street maps converter for loadstone that run on a windows pc or windows virtual machine under apple, it is possible for loadstone to be almost every bit as powerful as braillenote gps by sendero minus a few tiny details. Example, I can use groute to plan a walking route from my house to a restaurant in my city and back before I leave. put the routes into my phone, then have the rooutes available to me when I want to load them up and use them. groute also gives me all the points of interest sendero does. the way I do it is, routes go in checkpoints files..I use them with the street map databases to get directions to where I want to go. I have a separate database or two for points of interest. So if I want to know about points of interest like restaurants and stuff I just load the points of interest database and do an area view search to have a look around while in navigation mode. In edition, loadstone also has an exploration mode. I've also been able to cut corners with price on phones etcetera and managed to set up my loadstone system for about $270 or so. I personally am very happy with it using my holux m1000 bluetooth gps receiver. Josh My email address is: jkenn337@xxxxxxxxx . www.satogo.com Get klango at www.klango.net it's free! Get NVDA www.nvda-project.org it's free! Grab Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com it's free! and www.twitter.com/jkenn337 follow-me-on-twitter.