[gps-talkusers] e: Re: Voice-Activated GPS

Oh Mike that was very interesting, and very funny about your dog. Also, I wanted to say I have a talking clock which operates by voice recognition, and it drives me nuts. I have to shut off any equipment in my house making a loud sound in order for the thing to take any commands. Your ideas about this are quite correct. Outside noise definitely has an effect on such equipment. (and yes your dog was being such a good dog) Karen and Harpo

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael May <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:24:08 -0700
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Voice-Activated GPS

Voice commands have some benefits and some liabilities.  Indeed
Charles has a Garmin Nuvi 880 and we are quite familiar with its
pros
and cons.  At the last Consumer Electronics show, I got a demo
comparing the Garmin with a similar Magellan system. Garmin had
a
vehicle on the show floor so you could get inside, close the
doors
and operate it in a relatively quiet environment. Magellan would
not
demo their system because it wouldn't work in the noisy booth
environment. The reliability of voice recognition goes way down
when
their is noise and wind.

The other consideration is where the microphone is situated. Do
you
use a built in mic or do you have an external mic, either
Bluetooth
or a wire? You can see how in a pedestrian situation, voice input
on
a regular basis is not simple.

Back in 1995, I loaded the Dragon voice recognition software with
our
prototype Strider GPS system. The command to arrow down through
the
menus was, "Down." As I was walking along with my dog, I started
trying to scroll through the menu saying, Down, Down, Down! The
system responded some of the time but my Seeing Eye dog responded
all
of the time. I couldn't at first figure out why he kept
stopping.
Needless to say, my dog was trying to obey the Down command.  I
subsequently changed the Dragon command to abajo, the Spanish
word
for Down and it did work a bit better.

Command an control can work reasonably well but entering
addresses or
selecting points of interest by name is much trickier with voice
recognition.

Sendero continues to look at all options. Voice recognition
seems
sexy but when you really try to implement it, the trade offs
still
aren't justifiable. Now, if someone can't use their hands or
can't
type faster than 15 words per minute, the equation can be
different.

We will continue to closely watch the dvelopment of voice
recognition software.

Mike

At 10:54 AM 8/21/2008, you wrote:
Welll, I don't work for Sendero. I agree that it is something
that
would be nice to have, but only the developers can work out the
cost vs.
benefit ratio to determine if this is something that they want to
sink
resources into development. I have voice access features on my
cell
phone, but do not use it because getting the phone to understand
voice
commands in the mnoisy environments that I usually find myself in
when I
want to use the phone, is a lot more of a hastle than simply
pressing a
few buttons.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott
Granados
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:28 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Voice-Activated GPS

Andrew, I'd like to respectfully disagree.
First, I'm not sure what makes a feature necessary or not
but to me
a feature is a feature and more features is generally a good
thing.
Now that I'm an actual user of GPS tools I'm thinking that
some
voice control would be nice. For example it would be nice to do
things
like

"what is my GPS quality?" "what is my heading?" "what is the
up
coming intersection?" "where is the nearest Jamba Juice?" and
more.  My
thinking is, especially on the heading / stuff you'd like to know
when
you're traveling it would be nice to interact with the device
with out
using your hands. Especially when cane / dog traveling and
carrying
lots of bags or you know having your hands full. Granted you'd
probably
still have to tap a button to activate the process but it's
trivial to
slap a quick bt key compared to entering in commands or screen
tapping
depending on device.  My vantage point is on this that I'm a big
Microsoft voicecommand user and would love to see that
functionality
extended. Using a device with natural language and not having to
train
it first is pretty hot.


Just my unsolicited $.02;)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Voice-Activated GPS


I believe that this system is designed to allow motorists to keep
their
hands on the wheel. It may also assist people who have
disabilities
that effect the use of their hands. Something like this may be
a
convenience for blind people, but not necessary.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
O'Farrell,
Catherine J.
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:45 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Voice-Activated GPS

I have several vets who have seen the TV commercials for the
Nuvi 880
GPS which is voice-activated.  Is Sendero planning to develop a
voice-activated GPS for people who are visually impaired? You
would
make
lots of O&Ms and Vets who would be very happy! Catherine

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gps-talkusers Digest Wed, 20 Aug 2008 Volume: 05  Issue: 205

In This Issue:
[gps-talkusers] Changing GPS Receivers
[gps-talkusers] Braille note classic
[gps-talkusers] Re: Braille note classic
[gps-talkusers] Re: Braille note classic


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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:38:55 -0400
From: "Jim Stanga" <jimstanga@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Changing GPS Receivers

Hello:


I have just upgraded from the Holux 236 to the Holux M1000 GPS
Receiver.

I have the Braille Note mPower 32 BT.

Do I need to delete the 236 before installing the M1000? If so,
how do
I
delete the 236?



Looking forward to the M1000!



Jim Stanga






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From: "Howard Kaufman" <wa9top@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Braille note classic
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:26:39 -0500

A friend of mine has Sendero on an old bvoice. The machine is
about 5
years old, it has infra-red but not bluetooth. He is having
trouble
with his old receiver because the cereal cable breaks over time
and
use.
Is their a bluetooth that would plug into the cereal port on the
braille
note?
Then he
could buy a new receiver?


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From: "Howard Kaufman" <wa9top@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Braille note classic
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:05:36 -0500

I lost the note. That's voice note, not old voice. Well he has
that
to, because unlike me, he is old. We have been friends since I
was
six.



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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:16:49 -0700
From: Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Braille note classic

Hi Howard, I assume that is a classic since it doesn't have
bluetooth.

I did a little poking around but didn't see anything that is
small
enough to do what you want. So I think the only option would be
to
upgrade to an mPower that has bluetooth, or find some other
serial
GPS receiver but those are becoming scarce to find.

Charles.

At 07:05 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote:
I lost the note.  That's voice note, not old voice.  Well he has
that to, because unlike me, he is old. We have been friends
since I
was six.

Charles M.  La Pierre
CTO Sendero Group
"The GPS company." Distributors of the mPower, PK, Victor
Stream,
Voice Sense, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Miniguide and ID Mate
1-888-757-6810

Lat.  37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W



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End of gps-talkusers Digest V5 #205
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Michael G.  May

CEO Sendero Group

"The GPS company:" Featuring GPS on the mPower, PK and Voice
Sense.
And, coming soon, Mobile Geo for Window Mobile devices. .  Also
distributing Trekker, Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks,,
Mobile Speak, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate

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