[gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Possible Bug

Most motorists I know are only concerned with getting from point A to
point B and do not really care what they are passing by, until they get
near to their destination.  For passengers, it's a different story
entirely.

Andy
 

-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:21 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Possible Bug

This is an interesting one. 

I have found that even after giving GPS demonstrations to people who are
sighted in their own community that they find things that they didn't
even know were there. These aare locations that they past by all of the
time on a daily basis going to and from home. This happens to a greater
extent with blind  folks  because so much of the information is visual
signage. It is almost like a new window has opened when they hear  the
Sendero GPS announcing things like the streets they are on, the cross
streets and the various points of interest that are around them.  

This was the feeling that I had when I first obtained the Sendero GPS
two years ago. I felt that i was in control and didn't have to rely on
sighted people telling me about what things were around and what streets
I was on and what streets we were approaching. I find myself being the
person answering questions like, "what street are we on?" and, "where
are we?" It is quite powerful having this ability to have just as much
if not more information than the sighted folks you are with. The people
I was in the car with were stunned when I was able to say we were on 4th
and Mission. I also find myself being the person finding distances to
certain locations, getting the phone number of restaurants and making
reservations all within a matter of a few seconds. I also find myself
being the person saving the driver from unfolding their map on the
dashboard and me telling them where to turn and where to get on and off
the freeway. 

All of this access to  location information wouldn't be possible if it
weren't for the Sendero GPS, the hard work of the Sendero Group,
especially Mike May and Charles LaPierre. 

I wouldn't even think twice about walking out the door without my PK and
GPS. 

Kevin 





-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:13 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Possible Bug

Go point.  I am from a small town and now live on a small college
campus, so once I know the area that is all I need to know.  In a larger
city it would be very difficult to navigate, and I can see how a gps
could help there.
Even in small towns it would have helped to have had gps grow up.

Have a great day,
Alex

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Chris Grabowski <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date sent: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:48:21 -0400
>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Possible Bug

>Hi Alex,
>I disagree, GPS is helpful in day to day situations.
>..
>When I purchased GPS in 2002, I bought it to assist me in riding
the
>bus to and from work.  a place and a bus line I had traveled to
and
>from for 10 years and knew like the back of my hand.
>Chris
>On Sat, 10 May 2008 22:38:07 -0400, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

>>Depends on your travel; if you go places a lot alone and they are new 
>>areas then it would probably be helpful.  If you are normally in your 
>>home town, campus, or whatever then it will not be as useful a tool as

>>if you travel a lot.  It is a decision only you can make, though, and 
>>keep in mind that upgrades cost about as much as keysoft upgrades and,

>>as with ks, you cannot skip updates; just as you cannot go from ks7.0 
>>to 7.5 without installing 7.2 first, you cannot go from gps version 
>>3.5 to 4.2 without installing 4 first.

>>Have a great day,
>>Alex

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: drew <drewinhisroom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Date sent: Wed, 05 May 2010 20:59:57 -0700
>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Re: Possible Bug

>>>Hi skott i am not a new user of the braille note.  I am wondering if 
>>>i would need the gps do you think I need It Skott? Drew

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Date sent: Sat, 10 May 2008 18:53:15 -0700
>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Possible Bug

>>>>Also don't forget, as I think Charles mentioned some time
>>>ago, GPS has less resolution than the readings in your car.
>>>Everything GPS is broken in to one second blocks where the dials are 
>>>hard wired so the dials will show micro speed changes more 
>>>accurately.  GPS is more accurarte when you're dealing with a 
>>>constant rate of direction and speed.

>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: PghJohn11@xxxxxxx
>>>>  To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>  Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Possible Bug


>>>>  Is Richard a bug?

>>>>  In a message dated 5/10/2008 6:08:58 P.M.  Eastern
>>>Daylight Time, rich.irwin@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>>>>    Hey Richard, haven't seen you since our Mexico Cruise.

>>>>    Regarding this speed difference, our GPS systems should
>>>be much more
>>>>    reliable than any car speedometer.  The speedometer
>>>could be off for many
>>>>    reasons such as transmission and rear end gear ratio or
>>>tire size and
>>>>    pressure.

>>>>    Rich Irwin
>>>>    rich.irwin@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>>    From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>    [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>Richard Bartholomew
>>>>    Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:28 PM
>>>>    To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>    Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Possible Bug

>>>>    I, too, have noticed the difference in reported speeds
>>>between a speedometer

>>>>    and the GPS - all versions of the GPS since, 2, I think
>>>and across
>>>>    receivers.  However, I have put this down to the fact
>>>that I've been told
>>>>    that car speedos are intentionally set slightly higher
>>>than actual speed in
>>>>    an effort to curb speeding!

>>>>    Possibly not true, I suppose, but I like the sound of
>>>it!

>>>>    Regards

>>>>    Richard Bartholomew
>>>>    E-Mail:  richard_bartholomew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>    From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx
>>>>    To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>    Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:05 AM
>>>>    Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Possible Bug


>>>>> Actually, I have found this too as of v4 with a blue
>>>logger.  In lower
>>>>> versions with the same receiver and bn it reported fine,
>>>but now,
>>>>> especially while walking (as opposed to moving in a
>>>vehicle) it seems much

>>>>> faster than it used to; my normal walking speed was around
>>>2 mph or so and

>>>>> now it is normally around 3-3.8 even though I walk the
>>>same.  This happens

>>>>> with all types of coverage and, as I said, with v4 (sorry
>>>Sendero, but my
>>>>> money goes to keysoft first--v4 is good enough for me).

>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex

>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:32:17 -0700
>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Possible Bug

>>>>>>Jeff,

>>>>>>So, you are running the latest,Sendero GPS 4.22 and are
>>>noticing
>>>>> that it
>>>>>>seems to report the speed information 2-2.5 MPH below the
>>>actual
>>>>> speed? I
>>>>>>would seem about obtaining a Holux M-1000, the latest and
>>>>> greatest supported
>>>>>>receiver   and see if this issue is still occuring.  The
>>>only
>>>>> thing that i
>>>>>>can think of is the timing of iether the key press of for
>>>the GPS
>>>>> to capture
>>>>>>your speed is about a second off.

>>>>>>Most of the time, I have found the speed reported from a
>>>>> speedometer and the
>>>>>>Sendero GPS are insync.

>>>>>>Kevin

>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>Jeff
>>>>> Molzow
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:13 PM
>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Possible Bug

>>>>>>Hello All:

>>>>>>This is not a major bug, but thought I'd put it out there.
>>>I
>>>>> thought for a
>>>>>>while that it was either my receiver or VoiceNote, but I'm
>>>>> getting
>>>>>>consistent speed differences when driving at highway speed
>>>>> between the
>>>>>>Sendero and 2 other tested GPS's and almost ANY speedometer.
>>>In
>>>>> all cases,
>>>>>>I'm almost exactly 2 to 2.5 mph slower then their measured
>>>>> speeds.  If they
>>>>>>are traveling 70 mph, the Sendero will show 68 mph.  I don't
>>>>> remember this
>>>>>>error being present in earlier releases.  In the grand
>>>scheme of
>>>>> things, not
>>>>>>a huge difference and at walking speed, probably error is
>>>>> non-existent,
>>>>>>however I wanted to see if others are finding similar
>>>results.

>>>>>>For the record, I've tried this on a GPSlim236, the blue
>>>logger,
>>>>> and the
>>>>>>old Magellan (I think).  The one with the serial cable and 2
>>>>> double A
>>>>>>batteries.  I've also just gotten the motherboard replaced
>>>in my
>>>>> VoiceNote QT
>>>>>>so I don't think it's the bluetooth stack.  I compared my
>>>speed
>>>>> reading
>>>>>>between both a Garmin and Magellan car mounted GPS and have
>>>found
>>>>> similar
>>>>>>test differences between myself and those, and just about
>>>every
>>>>> speedometer
>>>>>>I've tested against.

>>>>>>Just Curious
>>>>>>Jeff


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