[gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app and other Sendero products

You're right, but who wants to carry around two devices when you can have it 
all in one.
Aaron 

Once an Eagle
Always an Eagle

On Jun 22, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Computers dn't have braille displays, but there are very small and portable 
> ones available now.
> On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Aaron Linson wrote:
> 
>> You have a point Mike however, you do not get a braille  display with a 
>> computer. Can I use a Braille note  apex with a braille display attached and 
>> not have to carry around two devices  I love the PDF support. Without this 
>> feature for me as a college student I would not be able to use a small 
>> computer that I can carry over my shoulder.
>> 
>> Once an Eagle
>> Always an Eagle
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> With the availability of things like ultrabooks now, I wonder how long the 
>>> blind note takers will be around though. There is little reason to spend 
>>> more money for a product that is a closed proprietary system when you can 
>>> have the same functionality and much more by getting something such as a 
>>> macbook air, or another small laptop. And the notetakers are way behind the 
>>> times, I think the last update to the human ware products introduced 
>>> support for reading PDF files, you've been able to do that on main stream 
>>> computers for years. In short, the blind notetakers offer nothing that you 
>>> cannot do on a small portable laptop and braille display for a cheaper 
>>> price.
>>> Original message:
>>> 
>>>> One of the things Sendero has always said is that "Not one size fits all" 
>>>> nor is one product best for all situations.
>>> 
>>>> The iPhone is wonderful for consuming information but I don't think it is 
>>>> as productive for writing or sending information. I don't mind reading 
>>>> emails on my iPhone but I always write emails on my computer or 
>>>> BrailleNote.
>>> 
>>>> So, when it comes to GPS, we want the Seeing Eye GPS product to be easy to 
>>>> use and full functioning for those who just don't want to carry a 
>>>> notetaker for whatever reason. We fully expect the BrailleNote and Sense 
>>>> GPS products to remain as a good solution for both consuming information 
>>>> and especially for efficiently writing and researching. When it comes to 
>>>> figuring out destinations and giving driving instructions to a friend or 
>>>> cab driver, I will be using my PK. In other less time sensitive situations 
>>>> where I am just following a route and wanting basic LookAround 
>>>> information, the iPhone GPS will be great.
>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>> 
>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron Linson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:54 AM
>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>>> 
>>>> When or if this iPhone app comes out, what will happen to Braille note 
>>>> users of the product?
>>> 
>>>> Aaron
>>> 
>>>> Once an Eagle
>>> 
>>>> Always an Eagle
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 11:31 AM, "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It is too early to say much about the Seeing Eye GPS app for the iPhone 
>>>> other than it is in the works. The intention is that it will have a 
>>>> straight forward easy to use user interface with turn by turn 
>>>> capabilities. We had a couple user group sessions at CSUN to get 
>>>> everyone's wish list for an iPhone app.
>>> 
>>>> I have the XGPS Bluetooth arm band GPS receiver for the iPhone. Hard to 
>>>> tell if it is better than the built in GPS. It is kind of a pain to wear 
>>>> it.
>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>> 
>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Hope Paulos
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:19 AM
>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>>> 
>>>> You’re welcome, Dale. I also am interested in this application. I’m hoping 
>>>> Mike’s presentation will be recorded and accessible to those who are not 
>>>> able to attend the convention. I’m currently at Carroll Center for the 
>>>> blind as an instructor for a program dealing with access technology and my 
>>>> supervisor, Brian Charlson, and I were talking about the seeing eye gps 
>>>> last night… He attended the focus group at CSun. Hope
>>> 
>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:38 AM
>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>>> 
>>>> Ah thanks Hope,
>>> 
>>>> I just noted reference to it in the news announcement from Sendero but 
>>>> there wasn't any additional information about it. I will be very 
>>>> interested as I have never had any particular interest in those note 
>>>> takers nor the extra equipment to pack around. I really prefer the 
>>>> universal functionality of a notebook computer but the iPhone pretty well 
>>>> includes most of that now along with a phone and perhaps soon a fully 
>>>> functional GPS solution. Awesome.
>>> 
>>>> Again thank you Hope.
>>> 
>>>> Dale leavens.
>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>>> From: Hope Paulos <mailto:hope.paulos@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> 
>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> 
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>>> 
>>>> It’s an application that has not yet been released by Sendero. I believe 
>>>> it’s a fully functional gps program that will work similar to mobile geo 
>>>> or the sender gps programs for the note takers.
>>> 
>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>>>> <mailto:[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf Of Dale 
>>>> Leavens
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:46 PM
>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>>> 
>>>> So what is Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app? A google doesn't reveal it to me.
>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>>> Dale Leavens.
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