[gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app and other Sendero products

Strange, my computer has a Braille display attached to it, as does my computer 
at home. I am not sure where you get the idea that computers don't have Braille 
displays.



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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:16 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app and other Sendero 
products

Computers dn't have braille displays, but there are very small and portable 
ones available now.
On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Aaron Linson wrote:

> You have a point Mike however, you do not get a braille  display with a 
> computer. Can I use a Braille note  apex with a braille display attached and 
> not have to carry around two devices  I love the PDF support. Without this 
> feature for me as a college student I would not be able to use a small 
> computer that I can carry over my shoulder.
> 
> Once an Eagle
> Always an Eagle
> 
> On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> With the availability of things like ultrabooks now, I wonder how long the 
>> blind note takers will be around though. There is little reason to spend 
>> more money for a product that is a closed proprietary system when you can 
>> have the same functionality and much more by getting something such as a 
>> macbook air, or another small laptop. And the notetakers are way behind the 
>> times, I think the last update to the human ware products introduced support 
>> for reading PDF files, you've been able to do that on main stream computers 
>> for years. In short, the blind notetakers offer nothing that you cannot do 
>> on a small portable laptop and braille display for a cheaper price.
>> Original message:
>> 
>>> One of the things Sendero has always said is that "Not one size fits all" 
>>> nor is one product best for all situations.
>> 
>>> The iPhone is wonderful for consuming information but I don't think it is 
>>> as productive for writing or sending information. I don't mind reading 
>>> emails on my iPhone but I always write emails on my computer or BrailleNote.
>> 
>>> So, when it comes to GPS, we want the Seeing Eye GPS product to be easy to 
>>> use and full functioning for those who just don't want to carry a notetaker 
>>> for whatever reason. We fully expect the BrailleNote and Sense GPS products 
>>> to remain as a good solution for both consuming information and especially 
>>> for efficiently writing and researching. When it comes to figuring out 
>>> destinations and giving driving instructions to a friend or cab driver, I 
>>> will be using my PK. In other less time sensitive situations where I am 
>>> just following a route and wanting basic LookAround information, the iPhone 
>>> GPS will be great.
>> 
>>> Mike
>> 
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron Linson
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:54 AM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>> 
>>> When or if this iPhone app comes out, what will happen to Braille note 
>>> users of the product?
>> 
>>> Aaron
>> 
>>> Once an Eagle
>> 
>>> Always an Eagle
>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 11:31 AM, "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It is too early to say much about the Seeing Eye GPS app for the iPhone 
>>> other than it is in the works. The intention is that it will have a 
>>> straight forward easy to use user interface with turn by turn capabilities. 
>>> We had a couple user group sessions at CSUN to get everyone's wish list for 
>>> an iPhone app.
>> 
>>> I have the XGPS Bluetooth arm band GPS receiver for the iPhone. Hard to 
>>> tell if it is better than the built in GPS. It is kind of a pain to wear it.
>> 
>>> Mike
>> 
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Hope Paulos
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:19 AM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>> 
>>> You’re welcome, Dale. I also am interested in this application. I’m hoping 
>>> Mike’s presentation will be recorded and accessible to those who are not 
>>> able to attend the convention. I’m currently at Carroll Center for the 
>>> blind as an instructor for a program dealing with access technology and my 
>>> supervisor, Brian Charlson, and I were talking about the seeing eye gps 
>>> last night… He attended the focus group at CSun. Hope
>> 
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:38 AM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>> 
>>> Ah thanks Hope,
>> 
>>> I just noted reference to it in the news announcement from Sendero but 
>>> there wasn't any additional information about it. I will be very interested 
>>> as I have never had any particular interest in those note takers nor the 
>>> extra equipment to pack around. I really prefer the universal functionality 
>>> of a notebook computer but the iPhone pretty well includes most of that now 
>>> along with a phone and perhaps soon a fully functional GPS solution. 
>>> Awesome.
>> 
>>> Again thank you Hope.
>> 
>>> Dale leavens.
>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>>> From: Hope Paulos <mailto:hope.paulos@xxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:19 AM
>> 
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>> 
>>> It’s an application that has not yet been released by Sendero. I believe 
>>> it’s a fully functional gps program that will work similar to mobile geo or 
>>> the sender gps programs for the note takers.
>> 
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>>> <mailto:[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf Of Dale 
>>> Leavens
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:46 PM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app?
>> 
>>> So what is Seeing Eye GPS iPhone app? A google doesn't reveal it to me.
>> 
>>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> Dale Leavens.
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