[gps-talkusers] Quiet Cars! wasRe: Re: self driving car released in 2008

That was a good one!
Just so everyone knows, I'm doing my part to help the blind community, my car is very audible. You can here it for over 2.1 miles when accelerating on to route 87 and at least 2 blocks in idle.:) The county of Santa Clara wasn't impressed with these facts or my argument that the modifications were "Green". I wonder if I can get some leverage heading down this path? hahaha 

I'm stepping off this thread here, it was fun.
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Let's hope that it's not a quiet car!!


Claude Everett
American by chance, Californian by choice.
Everyone has a disability, some are more aware of it than others.

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Mike, I expect you to be the first blind guy to race in the Indi 500! Jim 

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Well, there is the DARPA project which pays one million or maybe it is 10
million for the autonomous vehicle which can complete a 200 mile course
without a driver. They used to do it in the dessert but they did it this
year including city traffic. A couple vehicles made the entire trip.

Mike

At 04:01 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote:

Here's something I got from another list that I thought was interesting.

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True in the US, not true in other countries to such a degree although for 


the most part you're absolutely right.  These are problems of a layer 8
nature though, not technical.  Things, especially auto related, tend to
be pretty far behind here in the states compared to Europe for example
for pretty much the reasons you list.
   There's a lot of reasons not to get excited though on the technical
side.  Any sort of self driving cars, attended or otherwise, that
navigate the intire end to end process are a long long way off!  It is
an interesting incrimental step though.


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Before we get too excited, a reality check.  Even if there were a car
that could actually drive itself, respond to traffic and road
conditions, etc., both governmental entities and insurance companies
would require the presence of a licensed driver in the vehicle, in case
of equipment failure. The BART trains in the San Francisco Bay area are completely computer controlled, but an operator must still be present on 
each train to take over control if the system fails.

Andy


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Tangential to the topics on this list I know but GM is releasing
"traffic assist" which allows the car to drive itself, even and
especially in heavy traffic.  Using GPS, lasers, cameras and some
interesting artificial vision logic GM has a car that now can literally
drive itself.  Sure there's still need for a sited human operator but
not as much and the trend is an interesting one. If you look at some of 
the projections, some folks feel in 20 - 30 years there will be whole
lanes of most highways designated for automated / computer controled
driving.  One article I just read projected that there would be
dedicated lanes where humans would not be allowed to drive the car but
the top end speeds would exceed 150 to 200.  Since public transit is
impracticle, especially in the US, using micro vehicles that are self
driving has a lot of advantages and if the logic is beefed up enough
clearly we could be helped as well.  Not any time soon though.  Of
course, the way things are going, blindness could be a non starter of an 
issue by the turn of this century anyway.  (wonder if we'll have self
navigating cars or artificial vision first?)

Here's an interesting article dealing with GM's offering.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107011#









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