[gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all GPS users or not, and more.

Hi. One thing that I liked when I had a demo of stree talk, was the user interface to the catagories of pois around in an area. I liked the ability to open a catagory and down arrow just through those items, or to close the catagory and down arrow throught he catagories. If this is possible with the Sendero group gps, I haven't found a way to do it.
other than that, I wasn't impressed with street talk.

phil
breif
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene and Princess" <kb7uen5893@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all GPS users or not, and more.


I got the Globalsat 338 and Destinator 3 today, but I am still waiting
for StreetTalk and the Socket Bluetooth CF card.  It could be another
week for everything else to arrive.  Although, I have to say, I am not
looking forward to the install process.

Gene and Princess

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From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Gentell
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:43 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all
GPS users or not, and more.


I would speculate that the inability to port Sendero GPS to the PAC
Mate was more of an FS decision rather than that of Sendero's.  Maybe
Mike would care to comment on this?

Anyhow, happy installation if you haven't already installed
StreetTalk!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene and
Princess
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:26 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all
GPS users or not, and more.


Hi, thanks for the review or StreetTalk, I am a Pacmate QX420 user,
and I do agree with you in a major way regarding the size of the PM
compared to the BN.  I have seen the Sendero GPS solution in action
and I do feel it is by far more user friendly and intuitive to
operate, but at the same time, Sendero has made it clear, at least at
this time, that they won't be porting their GPS solution over to the
PM.  So I did go ahead and order StreetTalk.  I think as a new user it
will be okay, and as time moves on, hopefully, FS will update the
product to include some of the feature that are now standard with
Sendero's GPS solution.

Thanks again,
Gene and Princess

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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Gentell
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:26 PM
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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all
GPS users or not, and more.


Hi Gene and Princess,

I've used both StreetTalk and Sendero solutions and it's my opinion
that Sendero's solution is by far more user friendly and feature rich.
But, one would have to expect this since the Sendero product has been
out for several years while StreetTalk is less than a year old,
although it's underlying Destinator component has been on the market
for longer. There are certainly some favorable features of StreetTalk
such as creating Favorites which are similar to POI's but collected
separately in a Favorites list, but there are many many issues with
the product with regards to performance and the user interface that
make it clumsy to use by comparison.  For example, loading StreeTalk
into memory can take a couple of minutes and you always need to press
the "I agree" button in order to begin using the software.  It is also
advisable to unload all other programs.  So, it can literally take 3
to 4 minutes in addition to the time to acquire a fix just to get to
the GPS planning screen (equivalent more or less to that of Virtual
mode in Sendero's
product).   In a pinch you can load the Calendar or Contacts program
but
you want to shut it down once you've found the information you were
looking for in order to resume using StreetTalk or the PAC Mate
becomes noticeably sluggish.  Starting the GPS program on the
BrailleNote is a snap as long as there isn't problems with losing
pairing with the receiver.  I have had less issues with losing pairing
with the PAC Mate than those experiences I've read about on this list
although it was admittedly a bitch to pair for the first time on the
PAC Mate  (see my installation note below).

Calculating a route can also take a long time with StreetTalk, even
just issuing the create route command (Control R).  One of the biggest
problems I have with StreetTalk is that it regularly gets fowled up
when I've reached my destination.  It seems that a "you've arrived"
dialog of sorts pops up that isn't properly read and you have to quit
the program and sometimes even reset the unit in order to get on with
things.

Another aspect to consider is the hardware.  The PAC Mate is
considerably larger and heavier than the BrailleNotes, especially the
qwerty version.  This is more of a concern as a pedestrian.

It can take a couple of hours to install the StreetTalk/Destinator
software and register it for the first time.  I think I can do it now
in about an hour whereas I can load Sendero GPS with maps generally
under 10 minutes.  Finally, one has to point out that Freedom
Scientific has yet to release any updates to StreetTalk whereas
Sendero has regularly done so throughout the past few years.
Admittedly, no product is or will be perfect but I don't think you'll
be terribly disappointed, if at all, with Sendero GPS.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene and
Princess
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:52 AM
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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all
GPS users or not, and more.


Hi Mike, I asked the question about accuracy because I have never
heard a review of the StreetTalk solution which made me want to go out
and buy it.  I have talked to a few of the people at FS who made it
happen, and I know they have a lot of pride in the product, but as I
said before, the reviews don't make me feel real good about the
product.  I have asked for a live demo and hopefully that will happen
soon, and then I can make an informed decision based on tangable, real
time, information. I have also come away from the audio demos feeling
like StreetTalk is more cumbersome or complex to use than Sendero's
GPS solution, but if I am wrong about this, anyone on the list who has
used both products, please set me straight.  Again, this is where a
live demo would set my mind at ease.

Gene and Princess

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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:11 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Q;uestions about StreetTalk accuracy, all
GPS users or not, and more.


Gene,

The x key tells you the street you are on and the intersecting street
plus which side it is on. The Chord X gives all that plus the
orientation of the streets.

BrailleNote GPS is the dominant topic on this list but discussion of
other units is welcome. Some listers have both.

In terms of accuracy of GPS, all the systems have the same basic
constraints of the GPS system. The maps vary a bit but one system may
have a missing street in one town and the other system in a different
town.

The major differences are in the user interfaces.

Mike




At 07:35 PM 2/5/2006, you wrote: 
What is the difference between an intersection and a detailed
intersection?  Also, is this a list for all blind GPS users or just
the 
Braillenote?  If it is for all GPS users, than can people talk about
accuracy of StreetTalk verses Trekker and BN GPS.

Gene and Princess

-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:20 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] cross street announcements


Kath,

Space X announces a detailed description of the intersection. This
happens just once when you press the keys. It doesn't turn anything
on. 

If you wish to hear the upcoming intersection announced every 12
seconds, press MX for the Intersection or MI for the detailed
intersection. This works fine under Keysoft 7.

The only thing that has changed is the key echo of the command. You
don't hear the confirmation of the command but you do hear all the
information that goes along with the command.

Mike

At 05:31 AM 2/5/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I am using a BrailleNote with a Magellan receiver.  I am running
>KeySoft 7 and GPS Version 3.1. When I am moving in a vehicle, I
have
>the look-around mode turned on, and then I do a space x. I thought 

>this would turn on announcing cross streets every time the vehicle
>approaches another intersection.  When I do the space x, I thought
>that previous KeySoft versions told me that the street announcement


>was on or off!  Now I am not told anything!  Is this some
>compatibility issue with KeySoft 7 and GPS Version 3.1?
>
>Kathleen Goetsch Lueders
><mailto:kageylucy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>kageylucy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>








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