Hi. Ironically, in many areas of Fort Wayne and surrounding cities, the Tel Atlas maps are more accurate with the addressing than the Navtek maps that Garmin uses. I've often noticed that the physical location of an address is close to 100 feet closer to the real location with tel Atlas than with Navtek. Interesting how map data changes from area to area.
J.J. Meddaugh wrote:
Thanks much. That explains what seems to be going on. Around here, it seems that the indexing for house numbers is off, so it sounds like something that'll be fixed for the next map release.Thanks for the reply.----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps Sendero supportsHello currently Sendero only has maps from TeleAtlas for most countries except Australia where we get the maps from Humanware and NavTec as TeleAtlas doesn't have maps yet for that country.Yes it would be cost prohibitive to offer both TeleAtlas and NavTec maps since there is not only a per map royalty fee that Sendero has to pay but also an annual fee which is quite expensive just to have the right to use their maps.TeleAtlas is moving from separate map formats between their UK map database and their North American map database, and the GPS 4.0, 2007.1 maps you all currently have is their first offering of this new merged data format. It had some problems which they are correcting, and should be addressed with their 2008 maps next year. We have brought to their attention a number of discrepancies and you may also want to do the same for your local maps if they are in error.I am sure the data will get better, we just need to be patient. I can only imagine larger companies which use the TeleAtlas maps are also crying bloody murder over the apparent step backwards in data accuracy, but TeleAtlas has assured us they are working to correct the issues and most of the issues we have brought to their attention have already been addressed.Thank you Charles. At 11:06 AM 12/2/2007, you wrote:Hello Charles.Am I right to assume that it would be cost-prohibitive for Sendero to offer Navtec as a map choice for the U.S.? Here in Kalamazoo, MI, it seems that the Teleatlas maps are quite a bit off (we're talking several blocks) in several locations, and this is one of the main reasons that I haven't been able to justify purchasing Sendero GPS yet, unfortunately.Thanks. J.J.----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps Sendero supportsHello Yusuf,TeleAtlas does not yet support these countries. Even if they did then we would have to get a filter to convert their proprietary GDF map format into deCartas Richmap format. Those filters will only be created 1. once a the map exists and 2. once commercial demand for those countries merit deCarta spending the 6+ months development time to create the filter, and then Sendero is last on the list to then convert the deCarta's Maps into our own.So as you can see this is a very long and drawn out process driven by commercial demand, we are a drop in the bucket so until it becomes popular outside the blindness market will we see these maps for our market.As far as sharing maps between devices this is not possible or legal. Maps are purchased for a specific device as outlined in the licensing agreement between the map companies (ie. teleAtlas or Navtec) and the third party venders.Charles. At 01:37 AM 12/2/2007, you wrote:Charles, I don't know if this would be feasible but... Would it be possible to design some software that would be able to import maps to any GPS device no matter which product the maps were originally designed?Looking at your list of supported countries I noticed that there weren't any maps for large countries like India, South Africa, China or Turkey, I'm presuming this is because the maps Sendero use aren't available for those places. But, does that mean that there aren't any maps made by anyone for those places?So I'm wondering if it would be possible to write software that would enable Sindero to import particular maps from different companies for specific users.Of course the benefit of this would be that what Sindero could do everybody else could do as well. I'm thinking of the Trekker here as thats the product I use.Maybe the expense of purchasing a licence to reproduce 1 map would be prohibitive and I guess it would be quite challenging to do the conversions from 1 map type to another as I'm sure all the map providers use different ways of storing their information.Yusuf----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:19 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Maps Sendero supportsNothing yet for Mexico either. Here is a list of all the countries we currently support. USA Canada UK / Ireland Australia Germany France Belgium Switzerland Netherlands Sweden Denmark Spain Austria Italy Poland Norway Singapore / Malaysia / Hong Kong Thank you Charles At 07:12 PM 12/1/2007, you wrote:What about Mexico?----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: updated User POIsSorry currently there are no maps for Israel. Charles. At 05:04 PM 12/1/2007, you wrote:Hi, Do maps exist for Israel? Thanks, shayna----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: "GPS-talkusers-freelists.org" <GPS-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] updated User POIsWe have uploaded the latest User POI files. Go to http://www.MySendero.com for instructions and the free download.The 400extras zip file includes Asia and Africa cities. I also moved the New Zealand file into that zip file.The 400user zip has some new US and Canada POIs including over 10,000 user generated points in the US alone. There are some quarter million including transit stops in some cities and audio ATM locations from 4 banks.Mike Michael G. May CEO Sendero GroupDevelopers and distributors of the Cadillac of accessible GPS products as well as distributing BrailleNote, VoiceNote, Victor Stream, Talks, Miniguide and the ID MateCrashing Through by Robert Kurson available at http://www.CrashingThrough.comMikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.SenderoGroup.com 1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 Sendero Group, LLC 1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USACharles M. La Pierre CTO Sendero Group, LLC Lat. 37 15' 25" N Lon: 121 53' 04" W -- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PMCharles M. 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