[gps-talkusers] Re: Installing Issues and IBlue accuracy

Well Jim, I don't know what to tell you because I just tried it here and U and then A worked as expected after doing a 123 reset on my mpower when I installed GPS 5.04. 

I agree it was nice to meet you at CSUN as well.

Take care.
Charles.

At 11:33 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
Hi Charles, thanks for your most detailed response. Well, hate to tell you, but I did hold down the dots 1 2 3 then reset and waited until well after the initial windows sound. I did try the U and A, then hit enter on the cammand line at which point I got the message about a windows file was in use. The only way I could get it to work was as I said before, to use the U followed by the I which worked fine. I won't jump to any quick conclusions about the I Blue. I know you guys are very thorough in your testing of new receivers and really do put them through their paces so to speak. Even if it doesn't end up performing any better than the Holux 1000, I think the other features make it a worthwhile investment. I will try it over the next few days and se how it works. 
Again, thank you Charles for your concern and detailed response.
It was wonderful meeting with you and all the Sendero folks at CSUN last week. I truly know how dedicated you and all the folks are to developing the best product,technology, and software, that your very imaginative brains are capable of doing. 
Thanks much!  Jim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:51 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Installing Issues and IBlue accuracy



Hi Jim,
As far as installing using U followed by A or U followed by I, both will work equally well. The advantage of U followed by I is you don't get the additional prompt for a command line argument which the installer doesn't need, but both will work. It sounds like you didn't hold down dots 1 2 3 long enough for the program not to get loaded. Sendero always recommends after a dots 1 2 3 or S D F reset that you try to run the GPS program and if it runs then you didn't hold dots 1 2 3 or S D F long enough. After pressing reset while holding down dots 1 2 3 or S D F once you get to the main menu if you press "N" for Navigation the system should just beep at you and not run the program, only then can you install overtop of your old version with U (Utilities) followed by either A (application) or I (Install). If you use U/I it will only ask for where the program is and run it, if you press U/A it will ask for a command line argument as well which you have to just press enter on but both will install the software correctly as long as the correct reset has been done, if you get a message about the file is in use well then you didn't do the resect correctly and you also didn't try pressing N from the main menu to test to see if GPS would run.
Remember when doing a 123 or SDF reset you must be pressing those keys while you press and release the reset button, and then continue to hold those keys down for a good 10 or more seconds until you hear the melodic sounds, or as we normally tell our user just keep holding them down until the system says "Main Menu" Then press N which should just beep at you as GPS has not been loaded into memory at which point you can install or uninstall GPS using Utilities (Install) or (Applications)
As far as your I-Blue receiver, I am surprised to hear this as all tests we have done show this receiver to be better than the Holux m-1000. Now that being said it won't blow the doors of the m-1000 for either time to first fix or position accuracy but it is better, if you are finding it worse than your m-1000 then you may have a defective receiver but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion with out a lot more testing. The satellites may have just been having a bad day. For example if a satellite goes bad for whatever reason it will take over 1/2 an hour before that information is downloaded on a separate channel from the satellites with the almanac of where the satellites are in orbit and their health status, so during that time the "bad" satellite could be causing positions to be inaccurate.
So again, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions yet, I would wait and see how it performers over several days or even weeks. We have been testing this receiver for over 3 months now and feel confident in its abilities and stand behind it. We do not make these decisions lightly and a lot of testing around the world in various situations all came back favorable. We even told a select number of non-Sendero employees about this receiver a while ago and they all told us how much better the Iblue was over the m1000. Kevin Chao for instance loves the new receiver and as many of you know he really puts the system to the test!
Now this receiver is more sensitive and therefore could be potentially pick up multi path signals which other receivers wouldn't even be able to pick up but I would rather have a signal which is off by 100 feet or more than no signal.
Bottom line is this is a good receiver, it has double the battery life, double the number of channels for tracking satellites and is about 6db more sensitive than the m1000. 

Thanks for the questions hope this helps.
Charles.

At 09:01 PM 3/25/2009, you wrote:
Hi Charles, I have 5.03 but thought I'd get the latest version anyway. I am using the voicenote mpower. One command that I had forgotten or overlooked that you may want to remind people about is the Utilities command and I for install command. I was using the U followed by the A for applications and it kept telling me that a certain windows file was in used and to reset using the 1 2 3 reset. I would do that but still get the same resultes until I talked to Gil at Sendero support yesterday and he discovered my mistake.
I just got the I blue 737 today and so far, don't find that it acwuires sattelites much more quickly than the Holux 1000. I alwo was kind of surprised to find quite a bit of drift showing up even though I was sitting outside in an open area. I had gone several hundred feet in one direction or another while sitting at a picnic table at my place. Do you think that is "Normal" for the I Blue? Thanks, Jim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Sendero GPS 5_04 Released



Hello Sendero GPS customers
For Immediate Release Sendero GPS 5.04
For those who already have GPS 5.0, 5.01, 5.02 or 5.03 you do not need to get this update, but if you want to you can obtain it from your Sendero Account at http://www.gosendero.com/ 

This upgrade supports the new pay-as-you-go product licensing model.
Don't forget to verify your downloaded file size matches that of the original file so there are no corrupt downloads. If the file size doesn't match after it has been downloaded, your file is probably incomplete and you should delete your Internet cache and try downloading it again.
You do not have to un-install your old version but you will have to do a 123/sdf reset before you install 5.04. If you hear the message that some DLL file is in use then you haven't performed the correct reset and should try again holding down 123/sdf and the reset button on the mPower or on the PK C3/C4 and dots 123. 

Thanks
Sendero Group LLC


Charles M. La Pierre
CTO Sendero Group
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"The GPS company:" Featuring Sendero GPS on the BrailleNote as well as Sense Nav and the new Mobile Geo for Windows Mobile devices. Also distributing Trekker, Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Mobile Speak, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate 
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CTO Sendero Group
"The GPS company:" Featuring Sendero GPS on the BrailleNote as well as Sense Nav and the new Mobile Geo for Windows Mobile devices. Also distributing Trekker, Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Mobile Speak, Tiger embossers, Miniguide and ID Mate 
1-888-757-6810

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