[gps-talkusers] Re: HARD TO FIND PLACES
- From: Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,<gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:15:49 -0700
Hello Graham and Steven,
Sendero has always charged the same price for all
our countries. There were times when in the USA
there were very few commercial Points of
Interest, and our first version didn't even
contain maps. Also it has been our policy when
we do get new maps and POIs that everyone gets
the same upgrade price. It will really
complicate things if we have subsidies for
certain countries because either their maps or
POIs are not as current as one would like, and
then when we finally do get those countries up to
par, we would have to figure out who was
subsidized and then have to charge them
extra. This way when updated data comes along
its a single price upgrade for everyone.
Now that being said, Sendero is currently
converting and testing the latest 2007 maps from
teleAtlas for North America and the UK. We are
just about to receive updated POI data for North
America and in a month or so we are scheduled to
receive a substantial upgrade to the UK POIs,
which will have millions of POIs like
restaurants, shops etc! So hold tight we are
getting there, and Sendero thanks you for your patients.
Charles
CTO Sendero Group LLC.
At 02:53 AM 4/12/2007, Graham Woodward wrote:
Hi Steven,
I think your comment about the relative cost of
maps of Eire and the US is indisputable. The
word subsidy comes to mind. Also we don?t need
post code search removed, we need a field that
will accept the full code not just 5 characters.
I posted the following earlier in the hope that
someone from the vendors would reply but nothing yet. Anyway, I?ll try again.
With the problems of lack of map data and out of
date data for the UK and several other
countries, which obviously shows a considerable
contrast to that of users' experiences in the US
as witnessed on this list, is there not a case
for reflecting this in a two-level price
structure based on actual usability. At the
moment it does seem that a synic could interpret
the situation as one part of the user base
subsidizing the other. What do people think?
Thank you.
Graham Woodward.
Original message
From: "Steven Bingham" <steven.bingham1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gps-talkusers] HARD TO FIND PLACES
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:55:42 +0100
Carol
I have just seen your, and Richard's, emails.
The simplest way I have found to locate places
that do not appear on the map - and there are
hundreds of them, even quite large places - is to use a POI search.
Press f-chord set the search start and end
distances to 80 and 100. miles. Choose Bus and
Rail for the POI category and West for the
search string. This should give you a list which
will include Weston-super-Mare. It will also
include some places names that do not seem to
correspond with the search criteria. You can
then set this point as your destination.
The boundary between the south and Wales &
Midlands and the south and East England both
seem a little odd. It seems to be a line that
crosses the top of London and then somewhere
west of Reading the line turns sharply left to
the south and then again turns west. Wiltshire
is split between the two maps, I think the whole
of Avon is in the midlands and part of Somerset.
This is probably to ensure that the whole of
Wales can be included on one map - otherwise the
extreme South West of Wales around Pembrook
would be on the south map isolated from the rest of Wales.
Incidentally, can someone tell me why I need to
pay a further £50 for the map of Eire. It is
usually included in a map book of the British
Isles. Given that the data appears to be as
grotty for the whole of Ireland as it is for the
UK the map should come as part of the standard
package for UK residents. This is particularly
off putting as I would only have to pay the same
price for the map of the whole of the USA (including Canada).
We certainly seem to be getting a second rate service.
Steve
Charles M. La Pierre CTO
Sendero Group, LLC
Lat. 37 15' 25" N Lon: 121 53' 04" W
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Hi Steven,I think your comment about the relative cost of maps of Eire and the US is indisputable. The word subsidy comes to mind. Also we don?t need post code search removed, we need a field that will accept the full code not just 5 characters.
I posted the following earlier in the hope that someone from the vendors would reply but nothing yet. Anyway, I?ll try again.
With the problems of lack of map data and out of date data for the UK and several other countries, which obviously shows a considerable contrast to that of users' experiences in the US as witnessed on this list, is there not a case for reflecting this in a two-level price structure based on actual usability. At the moment it does seem that a synic could interpret the situation as one part of the user base subsidizing the other. What do people think?
Thank you. Graham Woodward. Original message From: "Steven Bingham" <steven.bingham1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [gps-talkusers] HARD TO FIND PLACES Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:55:42 +0100 Carol I have just seen your, and Richard's, emails.The simplest way I have found to locate places that do not appear on the map - and there are hundreds of them, even quite large places - is to use a POI search.
Press f-chord set the search start and end distances to 80 and 100. miles. Choose Bus and Rail for the POI category and West for the search string. This should give you a list which will include Weston-super-Mare. It will also include some places names that do not seem to correspond with the search criteria. You can then set this point as your destination.
The boundary between the south and Wales & Midlands and the south and East England both seem a little odd. It seems to be a line that crosses the top of London and then somewhere west of Reading the line turns sharply left to the south and then again turns west. Wiltshire is split between the two maps, I think the whole of Avon is in the midlands and part of Somerset. This is probably to ensure that the whole of Wales can be included on one map - otherwise the extreme South West of Wales around Pembrook would be on the south map isolated from the rest of Wales.
Incidentally, can someone tell me why I need to pay a further £50 for the map of Eire. It is usually included in a map book of the British Isles. Given that the data appears to be as grotty for the whole of Ireland as it is for the UK the map should come as part of the standard package for UK residents. This is particularly off putting as I would only have to pay the same price for the map of the whole of the USA (including Canada).
We certainly seem to be getting a second rate service. Steve
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- From: Graham Woodward