Mike, I'm very intrigued by the idea of a receiver that will pick up even in a mall. I trust you will keep us all posted regarding other findings with this receiver. Mary On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:59:21 +0200, Michael May wrote: >We continue to test a variety of receivers. The beauty of not being >locked into one receiver is that we can change at any time. >For example, there is a new chip that proports to have sensativity >down to -159 DBM, quite a bit better than that used by the Blue >Logger, Freedom and the Garmin. I have even found it to pick up inside a mall. >There are always trade offs and we are just learning what those are. >It is important to note that the number of satellites tracked is not >the ultimate indicator of position accuracy. Once you have 4 >satellites, each additional satellite makes little difference. The >systems use the best 4 satellites out of 8 or 10 satellites being >received. The scale is not linear. This is why we have the quality >rating of Poor, Fair, Good and Very good. >It is also amazing to me that I can have 3 receivers of exactly the >same brand and all report different figures right next to each other. >Mike >At 01:30 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote: >>Hello all, >> Yesterday I had the opportunity to observe and compare the new FS >>street talk on the Packmate qt to my PK with Braille Note GPS. I found that >>there product has some real cool potential. I found that the BN GPS is is >>early a much more polished, and comprehensive GPS product. However The Blue >>tooth receiver that they were using clearly out performed the bluelogger >>that I am using. This is with regards to the amount of satellites that it >>was picking up. I made notes on its name however I cannot find the file >>that I saved them in. Although it is the one that they are bundling with >>there product. There unit would consistently have between 3 and 5 more >>satellites tracking. This was with there unit in someone's breast pocket, >>and mine on my shoulder. I did a test with there unit connecting to it with >>my PK, and there was not problem, it connected just like I connected with my >>bluelogger. I got just as many satellites reported. I will get the name of >>the unit and let all of you guys know. >>Scott >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May >>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:36 PM >>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Garmin GPS10 >> >>Liam, >> >>Someone said they had tried the Fortuna with a BrailleNote and it >>didn't work. Have you tried it with the PK? I am surprised because I >>have tried 3 Bluetooth receivers on the PK and all communicated. I >>would like to see the Fortuna unless it is already determined that it >>won't work. >> >>Mike >>At 02:51 PM 7/12/2005, you wrote: >> >Michael, >> > >> >Have you had hands on the fortuna? Its tiny, you can change the battery >> >and it has a slide on offswitch. John who has used it felt it was >> >quicker to acquire a position than other models. If you like I can send >> >you one to try? The only minor problem is that the spare I have has a UK >> >charger, but I think it has a cigar lighter adapter in the pack. Its a >> >while since I unpacked it. >> > >> >- Liam >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May >> >Sent: 12 July 2005 15:46 >> >To: GPS-talkusers-freelists.org >> >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Garmin GPS10 >> > >> > >> >We are actively testing the Garmin GPS 10 receiver as an alternative >> >to the Delorme Earthmate. So far, they are quite similar in terms of >> >reception, the most important factor. >> > >> >There are small differences such as the way the Garmin turns on and >> >off. I am not sure if it is better or worse. It still has a single >> >button that you press to turn on and press and hold to turn off. The >> >Garmin is in a sealed case which means it is waterproof but you >> >cannot replace the battery. However, the battery lasts a couple hours >> >longer than the Earthmate. >> > >> >The Garmin is completely magnetic on one side making it good to stick >> >to the top of your car. >> > >> >I feel the jury is still out on the receiver. We bought a couple >> >extras in case anyone wants to have a second receiver. We will sell >> >them at cost, which is $150 including the receiver, car adapter and >> >AC charger. If you need another case, same as the one for the >> >Earthmate, that is another $15. >> > >> >It would be good to spread the testing to a larger audience. >> > >> >I have written a Getting Started document for the GPS 10. >> > >> >Mike >> > >> > >> > >> >Michael G. May >> > >> >CEO Sendero Group >> > >> >Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS >> >Distributing BrailleNote, VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T >> >tactile watch, Talks cell phone software and the ID Mate, bar code >> >reader >> > >> >MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >http://www.SenderoGroup.com >> > >> >(1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 >> >Sendero Group, LLC >> >1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA >> > >> >Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North >> >Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West >> >> >>Michael G. May >> >>CEO Sendero Group >> >>Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS >>Distributing BrailleNote, VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T >>tactile watch, Talks cell phone software and the ID Mate, bar code reader >> >>MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>http://www.SenderoGroup.com >> >>(1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 >>Sendero Group, LLC >>1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA >> >>Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North >>Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West >Michael G. May >CEO Sendero Group >Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS >Distributing BrailleNote, VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T >tactile watch, Talks cell phone software and the ID Mate, bar code reader >MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >http://www.SenderoGroup.com >(1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 >Sendero Group, LLC >1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA >Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North >Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West