[gps-talkusers] Re: GPS type
- From: "Sarai" <bucc7465@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:51:29 -0500
One of the main switching stations for Bell South is in New Orleans.
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[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Myers
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:39 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: GPS type
Hello, Clawed,
What does Bell South have to do with location, if that is what you mean?
Dick
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From: "Claude Everett" <claudeeverett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: GPS type
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 08:34:28 -0700
Hi,
I thought, I saw you on this list.
I'm using the Bluetooth that comes with the GPS from Sendero.
Hope you're not affected to much from the hurricane, Bell South takes
up a
lot of territory.
Claude
claudeeverett@xxxxxxxxxxx link
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarai" <bucc7465@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:10 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Creating Useful Routes
>Some times when your in a vehicle that wouldn't be good, or if it's a
>pretty straight forward automatic root, or if you know it really well.
>Usually force sequential is good for neighborhoods that have lots of
>streets that lope and criss cross.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave
>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:39 PM
>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Creating Useful Routes
>
>
>When following a rout, why would one not want force sequential mode to
>be on?
>
>Dave
>
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May"
><mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:20 PM
>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Creating Useful Routes
>
>
>>Jana,
>>
>>You cannot copy and paste routes to each other. You can only copy and
>>paste points within a route.
>>
>>If a route has points in close proximity, you should turn on the Force
>>Sequential mode so the subsequent waypoints do not trigger
>prematurealy.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>Thanks. These comments are helpful, and I, too, hope others will
>>>chime in.
>>>
>>>Just to clarify, I wasn't expecting the GPS to help identify where
>>>sidewalks are available. I was bringing this up in two regards.
>First,
>>>how do people handle creating a route in which they need to make
>several
>>>turns in close proximity as in the case of needing to cross both
>streets
>>>when one comes to an intersection and then perhaps needing to make a
>turn
>>>once on the correct corner in order to be heading down the block one
>wants
>>>to travel down next. Second, I was asking about whether one can
>create an
>>>alternate route to one that would be provided if one asked the GPS to
>>>automatically create a route and then if that manually created route
>can
>>>be appended to other routes so that one can follow the manually
>created
>>>route and at the end travel (depending on the route one has open) to
>>>a
>
>>>variety of different locations that are possible after getting to
>>>that
>
>>>point. Don't know if that makes things any clearer or not.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jana
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dave
>>>Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 7:50 PM
>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Creating Useful Routes
>>>
>>>Hi Jana,
>>>
>>>Your note is a long one. I will offer some of my opinions and we can
>>>hope for help from more experienced users too. Basically you asked
>>>some routing questions, and some about the accuracy of the GPS.
>>>
>>>A point of interest does not need to be part of a rout so if you want
>>>the dormitory that you may never visit to be a POI so if you arrive
>>>at it,
>you
>>>will know you are not where you want to be, you could designate it as
>such
>>>without it not being part of any rout. If you do that you would
>always be
>>>able to find it and create a rout to it if you wanted to in the
>future.
>>>In the case of diagonal sidewalks though, you might try switching
>>>your
>
>>>heading to clock mode so you can see the angle you are traveling at
>and
>>>you may never find that residence hall you don't wish to visit.
>>>
>>>I am not totally sold on the absolute accuracy of any GPS at this
>>>point so I may be corrected on this but I don't think you could
>>>create a rout accurate enough to tell you when to cross a street
>>>because of
>available
>>>sidewalk. I believe that GPS will help you find the corner you are
>>>looking for and after that, it's up to you to make the best decisions
>that
>>>meet your needs.
>>>
>>>I believe that the GPS is more than a gadget. For example, you
>>>should never get lost again, but if you should find yourself off
>>>rout, you
>should
>>>be able to find your way back independently, which is a heck of a
>>>good
>
>>>thing. I don't think the GPS is accurate in distances to the next
>street,
>>>but it will always tell you what the next street is going to be
>>>before
>you
>>>reach it. That is why I don't believe that WAAS technology is very
>>>helpful to us. I don't think it's as much GPS accuracy as it is the
>maps.
>>>For example, I could walk up and down the street in front of my house
>all
>>>day long and it will never give the correct street number, it just
>isn't
>>>there. However, once I created a POI called home, it fines home with
>no
>>>problem, but if I check the GPS to see what address I am near, it
>>>will
>
>>>still not be correct unless I name the street number as my home, as
>part
>>>of the POI information, then it will give me that information unless
>>>I
>ask
>>>specifically what address I am near, then GPS will default to the
>maps,
>>>and it will not be correct, but I will be home, which is where I want
>to
>>>be.
>>>
>>>I believe, for example, that if one marks their car as a POI so they
>>>can find it in a large [parking lot when they are finished shopping
>>>that
>it's
>>>possible that they could walk around within 30 feet of their car,
>looking
>>>for it for a while. However, if one forgot where they parked GPS
>would
>>>get them headed in the right direction and within 30 feet or less of
>the
>>>car, so if one has one of those remote horn buttons you would
>certainly be
>>>close enough to find the car by sound.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps some, and I too look forward to comments from others.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
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>>>
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>>>r
>>>g/program/
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <mailto:jlschroeder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jana Schroeder
>>>To: <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:05 PM
>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Creating Useful Routes
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I am new to GPS and am just beginning the process of learning how to
>>>create and edit routes. i work at a small college on a residential
>campus
>>>with many meandering sidewalks and thrange intersections. It seems
>that
>>>whenever a new building has been constructed, they have added
>sidewalks
>>>but never taken any existing sidewalks out. plus, I have seriously
>been
>>>told that decisions about where to place new sidewalks have been made
>by
>>>observing the most common paths taken by people who cut through the
>grass.
>>>In any case, there are a number of tricky spots, and if one gets onto
>a
>>>different sidewalk than the one intended, a person can end up in a
>>>completely different location on campus than expected. So you can
>imagine
>>>that I am excited about the prospect of creating many routes and
>points of
>>>interest to help me more reliably navigate around campus.
>>>
>>>I already have several questions that I imagine some of you more
>>>experienced folks can help with.
>>>
>>>First, I am wondering what strategies people have used to create
>>>routes and points of interest. By that I am wondering if people
>>>generally
>go
>>>around an area and create a bunch of points of interest and then go
>back
>>>and record routes taking them from place to place that they need to
>>>go
>or
>>>do they do it the other way around or do they just record the points
>of
>>>interest as they go. Here's an example to illustrate what I mean. I
>was
>>>creating a route today from the building I work in to my home which
>>>is
>a
>>>few blocks from campus. There is one place where two sidewalks split
>>>apart. If you accidentally stay on the right fork instead of taking
>the
>>>left, you will end up at a residence hall. I don't normally visit
>this
>>>residence hall so probably don't need a route to it, but it would be
>>>helpful to have it designated as a point of interest so if I
>accidentally
>>>approach it I will be alerted as to where I am. I thought for a
>minute
>>>about walking over to the dorm today to record the POI but then
>realized
>>>that this little detour would then be part of the route I was
>recording
>>>and wondered if that meant that if I didn't take the same detour
>>>every
>
>>>time I was in the route I'd be told I was off course. So it would be
>>>helpful to know how others have approached this.
>>>
>>>I also wonder how people have designated turns where you need to
>>>cross
>
>>>a
>>>street in one direction and then cross the other street in order to
>get to
>>>the corner you want to proceed on. I have read that you don't want t
>oput
>>>two waypoints too close together. So what do I do if I come to an
>>>intersection and want to turn left, cross the street and then turn
>right
>>>and cross again and then turn left to proceed down the block. There
>are
>>>some intersections where i only cross in a certain way because it's
>not a
>>>perfect intersection and/or there are not sidewalks on all corners or
>some
>>>other feature that makes it a better idea to cross in a certain way
>tha
>>>nin another. How do people handle this when creating a route? Also,
>if
>>>the right/left/straight designation is off, is this what will trigger
>the
>>>GPS to say that you are off your route or is that based on how you
>walk
>>>when you are recording the route regardless of what you specified
>>>when
>
>>>asked straight, left or right?
>>>
>>>Finally, I have noticed that even when the GPS says it is getting
>>>good satellite reception i am being told that the next intersection
>>>is 198
>feet
>>>ahead when, by my estimation, it is more like 50 feet ahead. It's my
>>>understanding that by changing if the announcement is made sooner or
>later
>>>this is based on the GPS's guess about how far you are from an
>>>intersection or POI, but if the accuracy of the distance from the
>>>intersection or POI seems to be considerably off, is there anything
>>>to
>be
>>>done about that? Do some cities have information that is just 'off"
>or
>>>what?
>>>
>>>In terms of creating a route, do I need to specify a destination and,
>>>if so, should I do that before starting out or once I get there or do
>>>I
>only
>>>do that if I want to have the program create an automatic route for
>me?
>>>
>>>is there any way besides traveling the route over and over to make a
>>>certain sequence part of multiple routes? In my situation, I walk to
>work
>>>via a different route than that generated if I do an automatic route
>from
>>>my house to the campus because there are not sidewalks on many parts
>of
>>>streets around here so i have to take that into consideration. Thus,
>I
>>>want to have routes from my house to a number of different points on
>>>campus. Can I take the part of the route that is common to all and
>>>somehow drop it into other routes? If it involves route editing, I'd
>>>appreciate some specific instructions on how people have done
>>>this--if
>it
>>>is typically done sitting down in one place or if you do it as you'r
>>>ewalking on the route or if that depends, then what factors are
>involved
>>>in deciding what method to use?
>>>
>>>I apologize for so many different questions in one message. I hope
>>>that folks can help with each of these areas as I want this to be
>>>more than
>an
>>>interesting gadget which is what it will be if I can't figure out how
>to
>>>create quality routes.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jana Schroeder
>>>
>>
>>
>>Michael G. May
>>
>>CEO Sendero Group
>>
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