[gps-talkusers] Re: FW: Re: They thought I was a terrorist

Ok people lets drop this topic please, we don't want to have to start moderating the list, that will just slow everything down and cause a huge amount of work for us. 
Charles

At 10:57 AM 9/26/2007, you wrote:
It's much more simple than that. First, don't open your door, second have them give you their badge number. Finally, dial 911 with the badge number and they can ID the cop for you. All their cars have GPS receivers and all the calls are tracked so verification can be done very quickly. Also, any cop should be familiar with this process and not be confrontational. If they are confrontational and threatening chances are they aren't a cop and I'd advise coming out shooting! 
:)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gammon" <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sarai,you are right. I am kind of scared of the same thing. I have often pondered what I would do if a person came to the door and identified him/her self as a cop. Since I have a scanner, I'd probably have them wait, I'd get the scanner and ask them to call in their location. For those without scanners, you could have them ask the department dispatcher to call your phone or cell for that matter. People do impersonate cops and carry badges and even drive cars that look like cop cars with the right kind of lights, sirens, and all. Fortunately, that happens pretty infrequently. Jim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarai D. Bucciarelli" <bucc7465@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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I agree:
But how do you really know if they are a cop. As a woman traveling alone,
that can be scary.


Sarai
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Hello all:
Please forgive the slightly off-topic post, but since Mike has already gone
there, I guess it's okay.
The whole issue of how does a police officer identify him or herself to a
blind citizen is very interesting. When I was doing some work under  a grant
with  DOJ (actually AFB was the grantee and I was the project
officer) during the early 90's, this issue came up. I remember that some
departments actually put braille and raised print on the back of an
officer's badge such as "MPDC #1254" for "Metropolitan Police of DC badge
#1254". This was coupled with some disability awareness training, but I
never actually got into the training part of it (although that would have
been fascinating). I wonder if this sort of thing is still being done.
In the times we live in, I think it is even more important for a mechanism
to be in place to help identify first responders to a blind person. What do
you think? I bet this idea has some PR and press value as well.
If somebody decides to run with this, be sure my name is spelled right in
the footnote! <grin>

Scott
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:44 PM
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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: They thought I was a terrorist

Rick,

I have felt selfconscious a time or two wondering what people think of the
electronic rig. I don't think anyone ever called the cops on me, and you are
right about the officer not identifying himself.
Mike


At 07:22 AM 9/25/2007, you wrote:

Hi folks,
Sunday was a perfect late September day in New Jersey, where I live, so

I decided to take me and my guide dog on a 2-mile walk at around 8 am.
We have a wonderful route in a quiet residential neighborhood.

I was carrying mhy BrailleNote QT 32, and my old Magellan receiver,

since I had left my newer one at work. I stopped to adjust some route
settings and proceeded.

About 5 minutes later a car pulled up beside me, and the driver said,

"Excuse me, are you blind?"

I told him yes, though I thought it a strange question with my dog and

harness in full view.

"What's that thing on your shoulder?" he inquired.
I told him about the BrailleNote and the GPS, and some things it could

do, and then I heard the police radio. I found that one of the neighbors was
concerned and suspicious because I was typing into a little computer in
front of the house. For the life of me, I don't know what they thought I
might be doing in full view in broad daylight.

The thing that bothered me most about this amusing encounter was the

officer didn't immediately identify himself as a policeman before asking me
questions. A person believing a questioner to be a civilian might ignore him
or tell him to go to Hell or worse, which is not the kind of talk a
policeman likes to hear.



Rick Fox
VP, Field Operations
De Witt & Associates
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Suite 110
Midland Park, NJ 07432
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