Hi I agree about the bluetooth. I really like the fact that i can have the gps receiver in my backpack and have it work for me much better then when it's on my shoulder. I'm using the garmin gps 10, i really like the on off of the garmin. i always know when i turn it on and off. i also like the fact that i can put the receiver on the roof of a car and have it work flawlessly for me. try doing that with cables. i had the receiver on the roof of a car and it was behind the driver, and i was in the passengers seat, and everything worked great, even in a heavy downpour. On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 08:37:42 -0400 "Scott E Ford" <w8sef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: SEF> Hello Everyone, SEF> I have to agree with Mike. I have been using my Bluetooth earth SEF> mate since March. I have never had it encounter interference, in fact I SEF> even have a wireless network in my home and nether one interfere with one SEF> another. When I mentioned that I had my blue logger say that it was not SEF> connected was in a park. I have only had that happen three different times. SEF> I have worked around computers a long time. When something that happens SEF> only three times and lasts only seconds that is not an issue. In fact I SEF> actually think that I am getting more information as to how things are SEF> working. Now to address them damn wires on the BN. I did a GPS weekend SEF> last weekend. at camp "T". Between batteries and cables I thought pairing SEF> with the PK was a cake walk. I actually have more difficulty getting my SEF> darn blue logger turned on or off. Then I do pairing it. This is starting SEF> to get long. Later. SEF> Scott SEF> SEF> SEF> -----Original Message----- SEF> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SEF> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May SEF> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:56 AM SEF> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SEF> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Earthmate USB cable SEF> SEF> One of the reasons many companies stayed away from USB, not just HumanWare, SEF> is the fact that different drivers have to be loaded that are specific to SEF> each device. Since the PK or mPower cannot load the Earthmate software, one SEF> has to bank on a generic driver working. SEF> There is no call for drivers for Bluetooth. SEF> SEF> At the end of the day, I believe the benefits of the wireless Bluetooth SEF> technology far outweigh the inconvenience and relative fragility of wires. SEF> SEF> Mike SEF> SEF> SEF> SEF> SEF> At 09:15 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: SEF> >Hello, Charles, SEF> >Well, it is kind of discouraging to hear that. I thought the ability SEF> >to supply power to small things was one of USB's attractive features. SEF> >And now, of course, the Bluetooth feature is showing its true worth in SEF> >many cases by being reluctant to work anywhere nearly as well as a SEF> >direct connection. I guess that is what you get when you have too much SEF> >confidence in one new and unproven technology and try to re-invent the SEF> >wheel. The whole thing is much too restrictive when you consider the SEF> >price. It is gratifying that the M-Power has at one standard USB port, SEF> >which means to me that someone suddenly realized the error of his ways. SEF> >So, if the PK users want to revert back to the tried-and-true USB, they SEF> >are going to have to shell out another wheelborrow full of money for a SEF> >trade-in to the M-power. Oh, well. I don't suppose a retro-fit to the SEF> >PK would be possible? I know that all this is not your fault. There SEF> >was very little warning that Bluetooth would create problems in a SEF> >mobile and noisy environment. Also, there was undoubtedly some concern SEF> >for the life of the PK battery. If it has to run a GPS receiver, the SEF> >battery might be sucked dry in a lot less time, since it is known that SEF> >those GPS chip-sets are heavy drinkers of power. SEF> > SEF> >Dick Myers SEF> > SEF> >(8):[(8) SEF> > SEF> > SEF> >From: Charles La Pierre <lapierre@xxxxxxxxx> SEF> >Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SEF> >To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SEF> >Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Earthmate USB cable SEF> >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:26:49 -0700 SEF> > SEF> >Hello everyone, SEF> > SEF> >I just want to clarify, a USB GPS receiver does not work with either SEF> >the mPower or the PK. The PK's USB port is non-powered I.e. its a SEF> >slave only USB port. The mPower has both master (I.e. powered) and SEF> >slave USB ports, but since I only received my mPower just before we SEF> >released the GPS product I could not get working the GPS receiver on SEF> >the master USB port on the mPower. Maybe in a future release of the SEF> >GPS software will this be an option for the mPower, but since the pk's SEF> >USB port is not a master a USB solution on the PK is not possible. SEF> > SEF> >Our main goal on both the PK and on the mPower was to get bluetooth SEF> >working and have a wireless solution, so having a USB solution as well SEF> >was a lower priority. SEF> > SEF> >Charles. SEF> > SEF> >At 06:25 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: SEF> > SEF> >>Hello, Mary Ellen, SEF> >>I ordered my Earthmate from DeLorme, and it came packed with the USB SEF> cable. SEF> >>If your PK has a USB port, chances it is a standard port, the flat SEF> >>4-wire jack. The Earthmate receiver end of the cable has the proper SEF> >>connector for fitting directly into the Earthmate GPS receiver without SEF> >>the need for the battery pack. SEF> >> SEF> >>Walk in sunshine SEF> >> SEF> >>Dick SEF> >>(8):[(8) SEF> >> SEF> >> SEF> >>From: " Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx> SEF> >>Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SEF> >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> SEF> >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Multiple repeat, BT 338 fine SEF> >>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:41:20 -0700 SEF> >> SEF> >>Yes that makes sense but as of right now, I know of no cable to fit SEF> >>the pk for the earthmate, otherwise I would use it. SEF> >>Mary Ellen Earls SEF> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Myers" SEF> >><dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx> SEF> >>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> SEF> >>Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:05 PM SEF> >>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Multiple repeat, BT 338 fine SEF> >> SEF> >> SEF> >>>Hello, Mary Ellen, SEF> >>>I guess it is easy for those wireless GPS receivers to get confused. SEF> >>>The satellite signals are just fine in most cases, but the Bluetooth SEF> >>>wireless connection may be getting a bit offset by automatic door SEF> >>>openers, radio-controlled signal lights, and police speed detectors, SEF> >>>all which use the same kinds of signals. I use the USB cable on my SEF> >>>Earthmate, and have never had a problem with dropout. I like the SEF> >>>Earthmate receiver. Now, if only they could get their software SEF> >>>problems fixed........ SEF> >>> SEF> >>>Walk in sunshine SEF> >>> SEF> >>>Dick Myers SEF> >>> SEF> >>>(8):[(8) SEF> >>> SEF> >>> SEF> >>>From: " Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx> SEF> >>>Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx SEF> >>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> SEF> >>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Multiple repeat, BT 338 fine SEF> >>>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 09:15:46 -0700 SEF> >>> SEF> >>>Mike, then maybe heaven forbid we need to look into going to a wired SEF> >>>receiver with the pk. SEF> >>>I have noticed one thing and that is that it has been extremely SEF> >>>difficult to get the blue logger set up with the mpower. SEF> >>> SEF> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" SEF> >>><mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> SEF> >>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> SEF> >>>Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:31 AM SEF> >>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Multiple repeat, BT 338 fine SEF> >>> SEF> >>> SEF> >>>>Vicky, SEF> >>>> SEF> >>>>Weather should have little impact on GPS reception. SEF> >>>> SEF> >>>>I have been testing the BT339 and Holux and will soon also have a SEF> >>>>Fortuna Slim to test. For our UK friends who have tried that SEF> >>>>receiver, it runs at 38.4 baud so that is why it won't work with the SEF> >>>>BrailleNote PK. The standard for receivers is 4800 baud. We may add SEF> >>>>a 38.4 selection if it appears that more than this one receiver are SEF> >>>>going that route. SEF> >>>> SEF> >>>>One thing to check with these new receivers is their connectivity. I SEF> >>>>have experienced more drop outs than with the Blue Logger or Garmin SEF> >>>>receivers. By this I mean that the new receivers I am testing SEF> >>>>completely disconnect and the PK says Bluetooth not detected or SEF> >>>>sometimes they just flick to no detection for a second and then SEF> >>>>reconnect. You can always press G to see the receiver status and SEF> >>>>with these new receivers, I would do that frequently to test the SEF> >>>>connectivity. SEF> >>>> SEF> >>>>Mike SEF> >>>> SEF> >>>>At 05:50 AM 9/1/2005, you wrote: SEF> >>>>>Hi All, SEF> >>>>> SEF> >>>>>Well, when I tried the BT 338 receiver this morning, it worked just SEF> >>>>>fine with the multiple repeat commands. So, who knows. Either I SEF> >>>>>was doing something wrong before, or the number of satellites and SEF> >>>>>weather conditions made the difference. For, the last time I tried SEF> >>>>>with the BT 338 when it didn't work, I normally got 4 or 5 SEF> >>>>>satellites and it was cloudy, while I got between 8 and 10 SEF> >>>>>satellites today and it was sunny. SEF> >>>> SEF> >>>> SEF> >>> SEF> >>> SEF> >> SEF> > SEF> >Charles M. La Pierre CTO SEF> >Sendero Group, LLC SEF> > SEF> >Lat. 37 15' 25" N Lon: 121 53' 04" W SEF> > SEF> > SEF> SEF> SEF> Michael G. 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