[gps-talkusers] Re: Discrimination Is Not Acceptable!

I am waiting for my M-Power QT and my GPS and I will have to wait up to six or seven week but I do have the Voicenote now wit a loaner GPS and I like it very much, like Mike said it only get you there but do not take you to the door you have to use your mobility skill to finish your rout. Jerry from San Antonio
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Hogan" <jerryhogan5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:32 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Discrimination Is Not Acceptable!



Richard I didn't bring up about law suit nor yell at them, and not put Sendero group in any involvement, but if you have read the original Email that the person had problem with the brewery there was a Email and phone# to the company that we can give our comment to and and I have exercised that right, and in a legal stand point of view the Sendero group only set up the trip and every one in the group were 18 year or older and take responsibility upon there self and not the Sendero group in no way. I was in Coralville Iowa last week with 90 other Blind Veterans golfing and I had a problem with a owner of a Taxi company who did not want to pick up a guide dog and I call the police and had him to just to put a complaint report in because the owner refuse me and not the driver! but I left it there and not going to push it no further, but I hope it help the next person like me not to be put into a situation like I was. so the moral to this story is not to take this softly but push a little to bring your point across may be the brewery will sent every one a free stock of there beer for a year with an apology, like like we say at the VA hospital that us Veterans go to and thing do not go right squeaky Wheel get the grease. Jerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:08 PM
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Hello, Jerry,
Yes, I am sure that the brewery was extremely concerned over your phoned threat. Did you tell them your name and phone number so they can tell you when they have closed the tour out of fear of reprisal from a few blind people? It would be nice if they did. However, once they think about the loss of PR, they might decide to counterfile suit against you for harassment. Let's just sue everybody and have everybody sue us, and then we all will be living in sewage. If it hadn't been for Sendero making GPS for the VI possible then Uncle Mike scheduling that tour, all this would never have happened. Therefore, the Chipward Brewery of Fine Malt Liquors is bound to file a Class Action suit against Sendero, Uncle Mike, and several guide dog schools.


May as well give all your money to your lawyer, he is going to get it anyway.

Dick

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From: "Jerry Hogan" <jerryhogan5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Discrimination Is Not Acceptable! Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:47:20 -0500

Richard I call the brewery today and told them in a nice way that this problem they have created for them self may result in legal action and lot of negative advertisement for them self, they said that they are considering closing the tour and consulting there attorney and the health department regarding letting guide dog in there brewery due to making the beer, and I told them that I will help spreading the word out to all blind people out there and that there are a lot of us. Jerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:36 PM
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Hello, Jerry,
Yes, you are absolutely right, living in the GREAT AMERICA. I did not realize that the Chipward Brewery had a gift shop. What more apropo from a brewery gift shop than a keg of fresh beer and a bag of pretzels? I would tell them don't bother to wrap it, I will drink it here and share with my faithful companion. I hope my GPS has that POI so I can find my way back.


Dick

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From: "Jerry Hogan" <jerryhogan5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Discrimination Is Not Acceptable! Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:17:08 -0500

I hate to burst your bubble Richard! but I understand perfectly what the Email said and it is a business and it have a gift shop that sell item about there company, plus they invited the general public to come in to there place of business, so that make them a open establishment that allowed dogs guide here in our GREAT AMERICA! to come to there house of worships so that make them to obey our America Disability Act regarding services for that I love the U.S.A. Jerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:44 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Discrimination Is Not Acceptable!



Hello, David,
Well, I hate to break your bubble, but someone might argue that that brewery is not a public place. If I allow you to come into my factory and look around, does that mean my factory is a public place?


Also, it ain't just Maine law.  Think federal.

Dick Myers

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From: "Hyde, David W." <david.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: FW: [TSE-Chat] Fw: [doggie-den] Fw: Please Show That Discrimination Is Not Acceptable!
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:40:56 -0500


I don't know Maine law, but there is probably something on the books
requiring dog guides and their users be admitted to all public places.
This would include the brewery.  Those who were denied access should
file the complaint, not Seeing eye, or Sendero Group.  Neither Seeing
Eye, nor Sendero were discriminated against, so probably do not have
standing to file on your behalf.  Talk with the attorney general there,
a f file either individually or as a group.





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