[gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
- From: "Kevin Chao" <g.unit89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:33:29 -0800
Raul,
It looks like the VoiceSense is beating the BrailleNote hands down in each and
every location. I created the route with the starting
at GW Micro and the ending at the Indiana School for the Blind. It took 1
minute and 3 seconds on the mPower running KS 7.5.27 and
GPS V4.03. So the VoiceSense is about 5 seconds faster there and over 30
seconds faster in the route in California.
Yeah, we have more complex roads that the system has to run through in
California as compared to Indiana.
So, I guess there we have it, with more RAM and more processing power routes do
create faster.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:45 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
I did another test with a different start and destination. This one took
a lot shorter to create even though the distance is further than Sendero
and Lighthouse.
Starting point: GW Micro
725 Airport North Office park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
Destination: Indiana School for the Blind
7725 North College Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46240
The creation of this route took 58 seconds which was 29 beeps on the
Voice Sense. The distance is 100.76 miles SW.
Raul A. Gallegos said the following on 12/14/2007 9:37 AM:
> Hi. After getting a stop wtch out, I found out that each beep happens
> every two seconds. So, anyway, the route was created in 1 minute and 57
> seconds. Yesterday when I said it took around 59 beeps, if you multiply
> 59 by 2, you get 118 which would be 118 seconds. That is consistent with
> the timer. So, if the PK is only taking 1 minute and 18 seconds, that is
> not bad at all. So, now the questions is, did it take 1 minute and 18
> seconds, or was it 118 seconds which is something different all
> together? ,smile>.
>
> Kevin Chao said the following on 12/13/2007 10:06 PM:
>> Jim and Charles, very good points regarding the timing of the route
>> creation. We don't need precision of a millionth of billionth of
>> a second here. I created the route on the PK and it came out at 1
>> minute and 18 seconds. I hit the stop watch created the route then
>> hit the stop watch off on the PK.
>> We will see what the VoiceSense gets.
>> Kevin
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles LaPierre
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:53 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
>>
>> For this even if the difference is a second it won't matter that much
>> its not like we are clocking FLOPS or something. A 60+ mile route
>> will have enough of a difference that a stopwatch will be more that
>> enough to determine how fast both calculate the same route. I would
>> imagine that the Voice Sense having 100 MHz faster processor will
>> hands down beat the BrailleNote in route creation, my guess is there
>> will be probably a 5 to 10 second speed difference on the Voice Sense.
>>
>> Charles.
>>
>>
>> At 06:41 PM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
>>> Actually, neither are a good solution. Depending on the OS's (Did
>>> someone say Windows CE?) you should run a benchmarking tool. Or,
>>> maybe that's to complex, maybe if again it's a windows derivitive,
>>> you could employ a port of the unix time command which literally
>>> times the exact start and stop of a given process. I'm not sure how
>>> open these devices are though, my gut tells me not very but I've been
>>> pleasantly surprised lately. I'm rather thinking that the results
>>> may be similar enough that human measurement might not provide enough
>>> resolution. At a minimum, precision is always a good thing. (tm)
>>>
>>> :)
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gammon" <jgammon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:16 PM
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sounds great, but to be fair, you should use a stopwatch to time the
>>>> route creation in both cases and see how long each unit takes.
>>>> Counting beeps is probably not accurate as they may go faster on the
>>>> Voice Sense due to the faster processor. Jim
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
>>>> <raul@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:40 PM
>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi. On the Voice Sense I put in Sendero as the virtual position and
>>>>> the Lighthouse as the destination. It showed that the destination
>>>>> was 64.37 miles southwest from Sendero.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Voice Sense plays progress tones, but I don't think they are
>>>>> three seconds apart. I created the route using two slightly
>>>>> methods. The first was using the micro hard drive CF card with the
>>>>> whole West of the US loaded. The second test was with only the
>>>>> California maps loaded in the flashdisk of the Voice Sense. In both
>>>>> cases the result was the same. Creating a vehicle route took 57
>>>>> beeps. The route had 364 waypoints. To be honest, this is longer
>>>>> than what I would have thought. At least when I've created many
>>>>> routes in Denver, Chicago, and Fort Wayne, 60 or so mile routes do
>>>>> not seem to take as long, but I don't know if POIs or map areas
>>>>> have something to do with this.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, there is the Voice Sense side of things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin Chao said the following on 12/13/2007 1:14 PM:
>>>>>> If we wwant to figure this out we can run a test. Let's say we
>>>>>> just have the maps for California loaded and create a route from
>>>>>> Sendero Group to the LightHouse and see what the
>>>>>> difference in speed is. Raul, I am not sure if there is some
>>>>>> progress tone on the Sense Nav. On the Sendero GPS, there is a
>>>>>> swoosh that occurs every 3
>>>>>> seconds to indicate some progress. Starting: Sendero Group
>>>>>> 11188 Maple Lane Davis, CA Ending: LightHouse
>>>>>> 214 Van ness Ave San Francisco, CA Could someone perform the route
>>>>>> calculation on the BrailleNote and someone on the VoiceSense? We
>>>>>> then can compare notes. It might be faster on the VoiceSense as
>>>>>> Alex suggested as there is more processing power and RAM on the
>>>>>> VoiceSense. There are many variables that aren't accounted for,
>>>>>> but this is just a general comparison. Kevin -----Original
>>>>>> Message-----
>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy W
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:58 AM
>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't the chip in the Braille Sense faster? Maybe someone from
>>>>>> sendero could
>>>>>> tell us if route calculation is noticeably faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Raul A.
>>>>>> Gallegos
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:47 AM
>>>>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: BrailleNote GPS vs Voice Sense GPS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Eric. I'd be happy to comment on the Voice Sense side of things
>>>>>> although I'm not sure how much my comments will mean since I've only
>>>>>> used the Voice Sense and not the Braille note. The things i can
>>>>>> comment
>>>>>> on are mainly things which I've seen from reading other user
>>>>>> experiences, but none from me personally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric Brinkman said the following on 12/13/2007 11:26 AM:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am curious whether anyone who has used both the BrailleNote GPS
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the Voice Sense GPS can comment on any differences between the two.
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos .. GW Micro Technical Support
>>>>>> Voice: 260-489-3671 .. Fax: 260-489-2608
>>>>>> WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com
>>>>>> FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos .. GW Micro Technical Support
>>>>> Voice: 260-489-3671 .. Fax: 260-489-2608
>>>>> WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com
>>>>> FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com
>>
>> Charles M. La Pierre CTO
>> Sendero Group, LLC
>>
>> Lat. 37 15' 25" N Lon: 121 53' 04" W
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Raul A. Gallegos .. GW Micro Technical Support
Voice: 260-489-3671 .. Fax: 260-489-2608
WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com
FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com
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