[gmpi] Re: Topic 6: Time representation
- From: Tim Hockin <thockin@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
> >Assuming a plugin gets the transport position at some point (maybe 0)
> >Assuming a plugin cares about edge detection of bars, beats, or ticks
> >We either send an event for EVERY tick....
>
> ...or else the plug-in gets events at the musical time interval it likes, ...
? clarify?
> > pos_in_ticks += ticks_per_sample
> OK, then you have a position in ticks in a floating point format,
> which is correct at each sample across the timeslice. Using floating
> point makes that kinda easy. But why is this important, or rather,
> what fraction of plug-ins will need to do that? You already have
> events stapled to index offsets, and could convert the offsets into a
> ticks-plus-stepped-fraction when you need them, and you could
> subscribe to events like I describe above if you want sprocket holes.
> The advantages of floating point musical time are not so great.
I get what you're saying now. Plug says 'tell me every N ticks', and host
does. It solves edge detection, and eliminates the need for the plugin to
track pos. Storing fractional ticks can be left to the plugin.
I rather like it.
> >I think Mike Berry made a pretty good case for it.
>
> Yeah, that was pretty far-sub. I think we'll need something sub, but
> still need to look closer. I.e., is
> common-multiple-of-44100-and-48000 the only answer? What if the
> system is operating with pull-down or pull-up, so you've got to work
> with, like 44050 and 48000? What about the future when we have
> sample rates like more 120 kHz? Then the LCMs can get pretty big.
> Do we need a fractional value? Etc. etc.
I think the sample_rate * subsample_rate idea is flexible enough to answer
all that for all hosts, and 64 bits should still be enough for a while :)
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