[gmpi] Re: Reqs 3.8 Events - ramped events
- From: Tim Hockin <thockin@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:27:56 -0800
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 02:26:53PM -0800, Chris Grigg wrote:
> But is this really viable across the board? An in-graph note index
> of 40.5 converting to a MIDI wire note of 40 or 41? An in-graph
> sustain pedal value of 0.5 converting to a MIDI wire CC value of 0 or
> 1? This is a source of error.
CC can more easily be turned into [0.0, 1.0] values. As for 40.5 being 40
or 41, just define one rule and stick to it. Always truncate. 40.5 == 40.
40.99999 = 40.
> C) If GMPI forces conversion of integer control surface values into
> real values to occur at the GMPI graph bounds (by the host), then it
> eliminates the possibility of allowing more than one plug destination
> to respond to the integer messages in different ways. Compared with
> existing plug formats, this is a loss of functionality.
It doesn't preclude that. Two answers. One is to convert CC info into
normalized data, which can be connected to natural controls simply by
converters or something(*). Two is that the conversion is done at the
MIDI->GMPI gateway. That gateway can send the same incoming MIDI to
multiple destinations in different forms, if need be.
(*) We could require that events be flagged as 'normalized' or 'natural'.
Normalized data needs to be convereted by the receiver. Naturlaized data
does not. We could alternatively provide simple normal->natural converters
that sit in front of natural inputs to naturalize. We could thirdly just
say "MIDI compatible controls are float [0.0, 1.0]" or even "MIDI compatible
controls are int [0, 127]". This still goes a long way towards getting rid
of MIDI parsing in every plugin, though keeping it as int seems to be
pointless :)
> If you let a plug have a MIDI In control port then all the individual
> controller routing for that plug is handled automatically within the
> plug, with no host load and no host GUI needs to be written by the
> host author nor played with by the user. Lots and lots of popular
> plugs already work this way.
This is exactly what I hate. I don't want to know what CC# each knob in
SynthX is. I don't want to figure out MIDI learn on each Synth I buy. I
want to right-click->link-to-MIDI and then waggle a knob. On EVERYTHING.
The same way. I want to be able to write plugins that can be controlled by
MIDI without writing a MIDI parser and building it into each plugin.
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