[gmpi] Re: Out-of-Band: suggestion for rethink

--- "Angus F. Hewlett" wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Marc Poirier wrote:
> 
> > With respect to Angus' comments about VST, well, I'm not really sure
> > what you're proposing.  Using VST as a basis is not an option, 
> > Steinberg has already clearly stated that.
> 
> Absolutely. But following the basic, brute-simple design concept is one
> of the many paths GMPI can take.

Okay, thanks, I gotcha now.

> > I think that developers maybe get used to VST and its shortcomings and
> > stop thinking about them so much, but I certainly do think that
> > customers want them addressed.  For years, I have gotten emails 
> > regularly (every few days) either complaining about something or 
> > reporting a "bug" with various plugins that I've worked on, problems 
> > that all result from some shortcomings in VST, ones that are addressed

> > by some other APIs.
> 
> OK, then you should definitely submit a review of VST, because I
> honestly have not seen those flaws. Like I say there are annoyances that

> should be fixed, but by and large it's a case of functionality that's 
> implemented in an annoying or clumsy way rather than "vital" things that

> aren't there at all.

I'm not sure why "vital" is there or in quotes (I didn't say it), I'm not
talking about stuff that serious (although I guess it's up to
interpretation how serious "vital" is), but anyway, okay, I'll do a review
of VST, too.

> YES, it does take a 500-1,000 line class to encapsulate VST nicely for a

> host, but it only has to be written once and a "VST-like" GMPI standard 
> could provide that.

I really would like to see a host SDK thing like that with GMPI.  Although
not something to worry about now...  ;)

> Anyway, I'll save the rest for my review... Marc, perhaps you could mail
> me on or off list with your view of VST's worst shortcomings, I'd like
> to analyse that as part of my review.

I'll just do my own bit of review, eventually, so I need not hold yours
up...  :)

So is there any agreement on this change in the working process?  I don't
want to start on any reviews if we're not actually going to take this new
direction...

Marc

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