[gmpi] Re: Out-of-Band: suggestion for rethink

Here's a big combo reply for you peeps...

I like Paul's proposal.  I guess that's probably obvious since I proposed
working from an AU basis a few months ago.  So I'm down with the idea. 
And as Paul guessed, I'd be happy to do a review of AU.  Also of VST.  I
have some experience with MAS and DX, but much less so I would be a poor
candidate for reviewing either of those.  Well, obviously Ron is the
person to do DX anyway.  ;)

With respect to Angus' comments about VST, well, I'm not really sure what
you're proposing.  Using VST as a basis is not an option, Steinberg has
already clearly stated that.  The owners of DX and AU are open to that
sort of thing, though, so those are more viable.  But even if we could
start from VST, what is it that you want to get from that?  I know that
you know (you acknowlege it) that there are a few critical flaws and a
bunch of more minor flaws that we'd need to address.  After doing that, I
can't imagine that we'd have something backwards compatible with today's
VST.  So we don't ease adoption that way anyway.  Which I think is what
you see as the big advantage of VST, but so far as I see, we would lose
that, so I'm not sure what you're trying to propose or why.

Also, I really disagree with this comment from Angus:

> Other SDKs have some "nice" features missing in VST, but so far the 
> level of adoption of those features by hosts and plugins is virtually 
> zero and there just doesn't seem to be customer demand for it.

I think that developers maybe get used to VST and its shortcomings and
stop thinking about them so much, but I certainly do think that customers
want them addressed.  For years, I have gotten emails regularly (every few
days) either complaining about something or reporting a "bug" with various
plugins that I've worked on, problems that all result from some
shortcomings in VST, ones that are addressed by some other APIs.  I know
I'm not being specific, but neither were you, and I'm just saying that my
experience is quite different from yours.  I think that it's just
developer complacency, begrudgingly just accepting the terms of VST, not
that everyone is happy with it and doesn't care about the improvements
that other APIs have brought, that's completely contrary to my experiences
with tons of users.

Marc

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