[glug-t] Re: glug_t Digest V5 #24

It is a whole day with Mr. Shakti Kannan. We are probably going to have
another session for the other topics.
On 4/2/07, Karthikeyan. M. S <mailkarthikeyan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Quoting Taggy and Suren,
> how long is this session ? there seem to be too many topics ..
>
> On 4/1/07, FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > glug_t Digest   Sat, 31 Mar 2007        Volume: 05  Issue: 024
> >
> > In This Issue:
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >                 [glug-t] [RFC] mailing list guidelines
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:23:04 +0530
> > From: "Surendran .M" <suren.silverprince@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > lets try to answer your questions :D
> >
> > >I think the idea is great and the set of topics quite a mouthful even
> for
> > a
> > >whole day. Do we have people to do each of the topics?
> > we have to find them.
> > > 1 - kernel compilation and patch additon and linux in embedded systems
> > yup embedded systems does not fit in there. correct. that was there
> > because that was intended for a single person
> >
> > >2 tcl/tk glade
> > no not me (ie suren) handling it. its MSK who wants to do that.
> >
> > >3 - developing maintaining packages
> > i guess sahil can take care of rpms. i dunno any one who knows dealing
> > with  debs (that excludes hari, evo )
> >
> > >4 4 - spinning a distro
> >
> > >Are we going to learn how to make a distro or going to distribute one
> to
> > our
> > >nitt fellowhood?
> >
> > i guess both :)
> >
> > >5 LAMP
> > hey you did not talk about this :) :) :D
> >
> > >6 workshop on something
> > lets talk about this in some small meeting among ourselves ?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:12:30 +0530
> > From: "S.Theyagarajan " <theyaga@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > Let me try some suggestions
> > 1. CMS ,LAMP
> >
> > Parijat and Vishal patel would be ideal for this .since they created a
> cms
> > of their own which has been successfully used in our pragyan
> > http://www.pragyan.org
> > also parijat has worked on MYSQL clustering and can also explain to us
> > about
> > lots of features that apache offers and something we don't know.
> >
> > 2 . Distro Customisation
> > I can take up that job ,no problems i have built some for just fun and i
> > can
> > do it pretty fast.The only condition is someone has to get me the
> complete
> > repo of ubuntu :) .We still have 1Gb left to download the repo mirror i
> > think. once that's done i can build it in  3 or 4 days .
> >
> > 3. tcl ,glade
> > I assume MS karthikeyan will do it ,as he suggested the topic.
> >
> > 4 . Kernel compilation
> > I suggest the speaker  first explain about the kernel as most of the
> > people
> > attending are first years and second years ( In the last meeting we had
> > almost 40 people from first and second year). Before starting to
> compile.
> > I really don't advise this ,instead i would like to see a presentation
> on
> > creating patches, diff and how to apply those patches. That would be
> more
> > helpful ,i remember how much i struggled to create patches ,diff from
> cvs
> > at
> > novell :( ?
> >
> > 5. CVS/SVN
> > Since we now have a lot of people contributing to opensource projects
> like
> > LDTP ,Opensolaris
> > may be we should have a session on CVS/SVN .I would love to see that
> > happening .
> >
> > 6.If people are interested i can also have a small presentation on
> > Opensolaris.
> > Its a good powerful OS and has somethings which GNU/Linux doesn't
> > have.whileit also lacks things that GNU/Linux
> > offers.We could talk about them and can help sharing a lot of knowledge
> ?
> >
> > --
> > thanks
> > taggy
> > http://freeshell.in/~taggy/blog
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > S.Theyagarajan
> > Under Graduate
> > Department Of Computer Science And Engineering
> > National Institute Of Technology , Trichirapalli
> > India 620015
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:07:43 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > --- "Surendran .M" <suren.silverprince@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > so if we
> > > can take a complete
> > > day (8-10 hrs) with full of our own seminars and
> > > experts outside
> > > college(thanks to Mr.Shakthi Kannan) i guess that
> > > will be really
> > > nice...
> >
> > This is a very common mistake that people make when
> > organizing an event.
> >
> > If I am coming to spend a day at glug-t, I might as
> > well conduct sessions for the full day. It is
> > important for all of you to make the best _use_ of my
> > time.
> >
> > All your seminars/sessions can be conducted, say, on
> > weekly meet-ups, rather than cramming everything on
> > one day.
> >
> > In weekly meet-ups with one talk, each person can
> > spend valuable time on explaining his/her topics of
> > interest.
> >
> > Kindly discuss with your group members, and let me
> > know the topics that you would like me to cover for
> > the full day. I will definitely need to do "Careers
> > with GNU/Linux".
> >
> > Let me know of a Saturday, and I can book the train
> > tickets.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > SK
> >
> > --
> > Shakthi Kannan
> > http://www.shakthimaan.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:20:23 +0530
> > From: "Harishankaran K" <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > --- On 3/31/07, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > While I help you guyz out, I am also going to teach
> > > you all to be "professionals".
> >
> > Thanks , we would love to learn a lot from you .
> > Yes, we would follow bottom posting and try to avoid shorthands as
> > much as possible in our mails.
> >
> > On 3/31/07, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > This is a very common mistake that people make when
> > > organizing an event.
> > >
> > > If I am coming to spend a day at glug-t, I might as
> > > well conduct sessions for the full day. It is
> > > important for all of you to make the best _use_ of my
> > > time.
> >
> > We would really gain a lot from your session and if you are ready to
> > conduct sessions for one full day , then there could not be anything
> > better .
> >
> > > Let me know of a Saturday, and I can book the train
> > > tickets.
> >
> > I think it will be fine with us if we have the event on 14 th or 21st
> > . I would suggest 21st since that would give us more time to prepare
> > for the event . We will confirm this date with our group and inform
> > you soon
> >
> > And regarding the topics . I think the following three topics are fine .
> >
> > 1. Careers with GNU/Linux and Free Software
> > 2. Usb device driver development
> > 3. Localization in GNU/Linux
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Regards
> > Hari.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > --- Harishankaran K <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > . I would suggest 21st since that would give us more
> > > time to prepare
> > > for the event.
> >
> > As you wish. Confirm the date with the institution,
> > and let me know ASAP so I can book the train tickets.
> >
> > > 1. Careers with GNU/Linux and Free Software
> > > 3. Localization in GNU/Linux
> >
> > Good choice.
> >
> > 4. FreeMatter
> >
> > (will talk about it)
> >
> > > 2. Usb device driver development
> >
> > I am not sure you guyz are ready for this, yet.
> >
> > If you can answer the following it will be useful:
> >
> > 1. Have students used GNU/Linux in the college? If
> > yes, for what purpose? Browsing, chatting, application
> > development, R&D?
> >
> > 2. Have students done Free/Libre Open Source Software
> > projects online?
> >
> > 3. How many hours do students spend their time in the
> > labs in the college?
> >
> > 4. Are there any companies in the campus doing
> > projects with students?
> >
> > 5. Do students know any foreign language?
> >
> > 6. How many courses/labs do students do per semester?
> >
> > 7. Do students/faculty get Internet access 24x7? What
> > about hostel students?
> >
> > 8. Can students/faculty use mobile phones/laptops in
> > the college premises?
> >
> > 9. Are students/faculty allowed to bring floppies/USB
> > flash disks/CDs
> > to college and use it in the labs?
> >
> > 10. Are Saturdays working days or are they holidays?
> > If holidays, what
> > do most students do during weekends?
> >
> > I would like the workshop to be open to all students
> > at NIT.
> >
> > If you are inviting folks from other colleges, give
> > them notification in advance.
> >
> > If you guyz can make a poster, that can be circulated
> > in and around campus, in mailing lists that will be
> > useful.
> >
> > There are some sample posters here:
> > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/posters/
> >
> > Please circulate the poster in .pdf, .ps, or .png
> > format. No .doc format, it is not an open standard:
> >
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> >
> >
> http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don't_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents
> >
> > SK
> >
> > --
> > Shakthi Kannan
> > http://www.shakthimaan.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:32:00 +0530
> > From: "Harishankaran K" <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > Comments inline .
> >
> > On 3/31/07, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I am not sure you guyz are ready for this, yet.
> >
> > As of now,  even we are also newbies in this topic. But everything has
> > to start from some point , right ? Most of our friends here are eager
> > to know about this topic but they exactly dont know where to start
> > from . It will be really great if you can make this lecture very
> > basic, and give us some hints how we can proceed from there .
> >
> > > 1. Have students used GNU/Linux in the college? If
> > > yes, for what purpose? Browsing, chatting, application
> > > development, R&D?
> >
> >     Yes , though not all students , a group of hackers here use
> > GNU/Linux for almost everything . Students here maintain servers .
> > Apart from that hacker group , others use GNU/Linux very rarely.
> >
> > > 2. Have students done Free/Libre Open Source Software
> > > projects online?
> >
> > Very few have done OSS projects.
> > Like me and theyagarajan have contributed for Linux Desktop Testing
> > project (http://ldtp.freedesktop.org) and another guy called Arvind
> > has contributed for Evolution .
> >
> > > 3. How many hours do students spend their time in the
> > > labs in the college?
> >
> > Our college computer center is open 24*7 . So it is students interest
> > which decides this time. There are few who spend almost all their time
> > in front of a comp :-)
> >
> > > 4. Are there any companies in the campus doing
> > > projects with students?
> >
> > Yeah , but i am not sure whether they are open source projects .
> >
> > > 5. Do students know any foreign language?
> > >
> >
> > Very few , but i am not sure whether they will attend the lectures .
> > You may as well consider this as NO :(
> >
> > > 6. How many courses/labs do students do per semester?
> > >
> >
> > Students have 6 courses and 2 labs per semester
> >
> > > 7. Do students/faculty get Internet access 24x7? What
> > > about hostel students?
> > >
> >
> > Students get 24*7 internet access in the computer center but the
> > computers have only Windows . Only very few have access to internet
> > from a linux box.
> >
> >
> > > 8. Can students/faculty use mobile phones/laptops in
> > > the college premises?
> > >
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > > 9. Are students/faculty allowed to bring floppies/USB
> > > flash disks/CDs
> > > to college and use it in the labs?
> > >
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > > 10. Are Saturdays working days or are they holidays?
> > > If holidays, what
> > > do most students do during weekends?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, it is a holiday.
> > This is a tough question  :-( . Few go home , few stay and work , few
> > take rest .
> >
> > > I would like the workshop to be open to all students
> > > at NIT.
> > >
> >
> > Ofcourse the workshop will be open for all students . We will send the
> > posters for all the colleges in and around trichy .
> >
> > >
> > > If you guyz can make a poster, that can be circulated
> > > in and around campus, in mailing lists that will be
> > > useful.
> >
> > We will make our own posters.
> >
> > > Please circulate the poster in .pdf, .ps, or .png
> > > format. No .doc format, it is not an open standard:
> > >
> > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don't_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents
> > >
> >
> > Sure :) . We are learning lots and lots of new stuff from you . Thanks a
> > lot :)
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Hari.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > --- Harishankaran K <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > As of now,  even we are also newbies in this topic.
> > > But everything has
> > > to start from some point , right ? Most of our
> > > friends here are eager
> > > to know about this topic
> >
> > Sure, but, not USB device driver development. USB is a
> > complicated protocol.
> >
> > The FreeMatter project is aimed at getting you guyz
> > started. I will address this.
> >
> > >    Yes , though not all students , a group of
> > > hackers here use
> > > GNU/Linux for almost everything .
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > Very few , but i am not sure whether they will
> > > attend the lectures .
> >
> > The question on foreign language is to know if
> > students are ready for onsite opportunities to
> > countries that don't speak English.
> >
> > It is good to know one foreign language.
> >
> > > Students get 24*7 internet access in the computer
> > > center but the
> > > computers have only Windows . Only very few have
> > > access to internet
> > > from a linux box.
> >
> > Can students use a computer in their hostel/dorm room?
> >
> > > Sure :) . We are learning lots and lots of new stuff
> > > from you . Thanks a lot :)
> >
> > You are going to be learning something new, every day.
> > This is "real education".
> >
> > I have a request. I would like all students to ask
> > questions, irrespective of whether you think it is a
> > stupid question or not. If in doubt, simply ask - to
> > the mailing list. The more mistakes you make, the more
> > we can correct them, and the sooner you will all
> > become "engineering students".
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > SK
> >
> > --
> > Shakthi Kannan
> > http://www.shakthimaan.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:59:22 +0530
> > From: "Allagappan M" <allagappan@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
> >
> > > Can students use a computer in their hostel/dorm room?
> >
> > Yes, they can (But, no internet)
> >
> > -Allagappan
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:15:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
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