[glug-t] Re: glug_t Digest V5 #24

Quoting Taggy and Suren,
how long is this session ? there seem to be too many topics ..

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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:23:04 +0530
> From: "Surendran .M" <suren.silverprince@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> lets try to answer your questions :D
>
> >I think the idea is great and the set of topics quite a mouthful even for
> a
> >whole day. Do we have people to do each of the topics?
> we have to find them.
> > 1 - kernel compilation and patch additon and linux in embedded systems
> yup embedded systems does not fit in there. correct. that was there
> because that was intended for a single person
>
> >2 tcl/tk glade
> no not me (ie suren) handling it. its MSK who wants to do that.
>
> >3 - developing maintaining packages
> i guess sahil can take care of rpms. i dunno any one who knows dealing
> with  debs (that excludes hari, evo )
>
> >4 4 - spinning a distro
>
> >Are we going to learn how to make a distro or going to distribute one to
> our
> >nitt fellowhood?
>
> i guess both :)
>
> >5 LAMP
> hey you did not talk about this :) :) :D
>
> >6 workshop on something
> lets talk about this in some small meeting among ourselves ?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:12:30 +0530
> From: "S.Theyagarajan " <theyaga@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> Let me try some suggestions
> 1. CMS ,LAMP
>
> Parijat and Vishal patel would be ideal for this .since they created a cms
> of their own which has been successfully used in our pragyan
> http://www.pragyan.org
> also parijat has worked on MYSQL clustering and can also explain to us
> about
> lots of features that apache offers and something we don't know.
>
> 2 . Distro Customisation
> I can take up that job ,no problems i have built some for just fun and i
> can
> do it pretty fast.The only condition is someone has to get me the complete
> repo of ubuntu :) .We still have 1Gb left to download the repo mirror i
> think. once that's done i can build it in  3 or 4 days .
>
> 3. tcl ,glade
> I assume MS karthikeyan will do it ,as he suggested the topic.
>
> 4 . Kernel compilation
> I suggest the speaker  first explain about the kernel as most of the
> people
> attending are first years and second years ( In the last meeting we had
> almost 40 people from first and second year). Before starting to compile.
> I really don't advise this ,instead i would like to see a presentation on
> creating patches, diff and how to apply those patches. That would be more
> helpful ,i remember how much i struggled to create patches ,diff from cvs
> at
> novell :( ?
>
> 5. CVS/SVN
> Since we now have a lot of people contributing to opensource projects like
> LDTP ,Opensolaris
> may be we should have a session on CVS/SVN .I would love to see that
> happening .
>
> 6.If people are interested i can also have a small presentation on
> Opensolaris.
> Its a good powerful OS and has somethings which GNU/Linux doesn't
> have.whileit also lacks things that GNU/Linux
> offers.We could talk about them and can help sharing a lot of knowledge ?
>
> --
> thanks
> taggy
> http://freeshell.in/~taggy/blog
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> S.Theyagarajan
> Under Graduate
> Department Of Computer Science And Engineering
> National Institute Of Technology , Trichirapalli
> India 620015
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:07:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> HI,
>
> --- "Surendran .M" <suren.silverprince@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > so if we
> > can take a complete
> > day (8-10 hrs) with full of our own seminars and
> > experts outside
> > college(thanks to Mr.Shakthi Kannan) i guess that
> > will be really
> > nice...
>
> This is a very common mistake that people make when
> organizing an event.
>
> If I am coming to spend a day at glug-t, I might as
> well conduct sessions for the full day. It is
> important for all of you to make the best _use_ of my
> time.
>
> All your seminars/sessions can be conducted, say, on
> weekly meet-ups, rather than cramming everything on
> one day.
>
> In weekly meet-ups with one talk, each person can
> spend valuable time on explaining his/her topics of
> interest.
>
> Kindly discuss with your group members, and let me
> know the topics that you would like me to cover for
> the full day. I will definitely need to do "Careers
> with GNU/Linux".
>
> Let me know of a Saturday, and I can book the train
> tickets.
>
> Regards,
>
> SK
>
> --
> Shakthi Kannan
> http://www.shakthimaan.com
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:20:23 +0530
> From: "Harishankaran K" <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> --- On 3/31/07, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > While I help you guyz out, I am also going to teach
> > you all to be "professionals".
>
> Thanks , we would love to learn a lot from you .
> Yes, we would follow bottom posting and try to avoid shorthands as
> much as possible in our mails.
>
> On 3/31/07, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > This is a very common mistake that people make when
> > organizing an event.
> >
> > If I am coming to spend a day at glug-t, I might as
> > well conduct sessions for the full day. It is
> > important for all of you to make the best _use_ of my
> > time.
>
> We would really gain a lot from your session and if you are ready to
> conduct sessions for one full day , then there could not be anything
> better .
>
> > Let me know of a Saturday, and I can book the train
> > tickets.
>
> I think it will be fine with us if we have the event on 14 th or 21st
> . I would suggest 21st since that would give us more time to prepare
> for the event . We will confirm this date with our group and inform
> you soon
>
> And regarding the topics . I think the following three topics are fine .
>
> 1. Careers with GNU/Linux and Free Software
> 2. Usb device driver development
> 3. Localization in GNU/Linux
>
> Thanks
> --
> Regards
> Hari.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> Hi,
>
> --- Harishankaran K <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > . I would suggest 21st since that would give us more
> > time to prepare
> > for the event.
>
> As you wish. Confirm the date with the institution,
> and let me know ASAP so I can book the train tickets.
>
> > 1. Careers with GNU/Linux and Free Software
> > 3. Localization in GNU/Linux
>
> Good choice.
>
> 4. FreeMatter
>
> (will talk about it)
>
> > 2. Usb device driver development
>
> I am not sure you guyz are ready for this, yet.
>
> If you can answer the following it will be useful:
>
> 1. Have students used GNU/Linux in the college? If
> yes, for what purpose? Browsing, chatting, application
> development, R&D?
>
> 2. Have students done Free/Libre Open Source Software
> projects online?
>
> 3. How many hours do students spend their time in the
> labs in the college?
>
> 4. Are there any companies in the campus doing
> projects with students?
>
> 5. Do students know any foreign language?
>
> 6. How many courses/labs do students do per semester?
>
> 7. Do students/faculty get Internet access 24x7? What
> about hostel students?
>
> 8. Can students/faculty use mobile phones/laptops in
> the college premises?
>
> 9. Are students/faculty allowed to bring floppies/USB
> flash disks/CDs
> to college and use it in the labs?
>
> 10. Are Saturdays working days or are they holidays?
> If holidays, what
> do most students do during weekends?
>
> I would like the workshop to be open to all students
> at NIT.
>
> If you are inviting folks from other colleges, give
> them notification in advance.
>
> If you guyz can make a poster, that can be circulated
> in and around campus, in mailing lists that will be
> useful.
>
> There are some sample posters here:
> http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/posters/
>
> Please circulate the poster in .pdf, .ps, or .png
> format. No .doc format, it is not an open standard:
>
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
>
> http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don't_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents
>
> SK
>
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:32:00 +0530
> From: "Harishankaran K" <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> Comments inline .
>
> On 3/31/07, Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure you guyz are ready for this, yet.
>
> As of now,  even we are also newbies in this topic. But everything has
> to start from some point , right ? Most of our friends here are eager
> to know about this topic but they exactly dont know where to start
> from . It will be really great if you can make this lecture very
> basic, and give us some hints how we can proceed from there .
>
> > 1. Have students used GNU/Linux in the college? If
> > yes, for what purpose? Browsing, chatting, application
> > development, R&D?
>
>     Yes , though not all students , a group of hackers here use
> GNU/Linux for almost everything . Students here maintain servers .
> Apart from that hacker group , others use GNU/Linux very rarely.
>
> > 2. Have students done Free/Libre Open Source Software
> > projects online?
>
> Very few have done OSS projects.
> Like me and theyagarajan have contributed for Linux Desktop Testing
> project (http://ldtp.freedesktop.org) and another guy called Arvind
> has contributed for Evolution .
>
> > 3. How many hours do students spend their time in the
> > labs in the college?
>
> Our college computer center is open 24*7 . So it is students interest
> which decides this time. There are few who spend almost all their time
> in front of a comp :-)
>
> > 4. Are there any companies in the campus doing
> > projects with students?
>
> Yeah , but i am not sure whether they are open source projects .
>
> > 5. Do students know any foreign language?
> >
>
> Very few , but i am not sure whether they will attend the lectures .
> You may as well consider this as NO :(
>
> > 6. How many courses/labs do students do per semester?
> >
>
> Students have 6 courses and 2 labs per semester
>
> > 7. Do students/faculty get Internet access 24x7? What
> > about hostel students?
> >
>
> Students get 24*7 internet access in the computer center but the
> computers have only Windows . Only very few have access to internet
> from a linux box.
>
>
> > 8. Can students/faculty use mobile phones/laptops in
> > the college premises?
> >
>
> Yes
>
> > 9. Are students/faculty allowed to bring floppies/USB
> > flash disks/CDs
> > to college and use it in the labs?
> >
>
> Yes
>
> > 10. Are Saturdays working days or are they holidays?
> > If holidays, what
> > do most students do during weekends?
> >
>
> Yes, it is a holiday.
> This is a tough question  :-( . Few go home , few stay and work , few
> take rest .
>
> > I would like the workshop to be open to all students
> > at NIT.
> >
>
> Ofcourse the workshop will be open for all students . We will send the
> posters for all the colleges in and around trichy .
>
> >
> > If you guyz can make a poster, that can be circulated
> > in and around campus, in mailing lists that will be
> > useful.
>
> We will make our own posters.
>
> > Please circulate the poster in .pdf, .ps, or .png
> > format. No .doc format, it is not an open standard:
> >
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> >
> http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don't_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents
> >
>
> Sure :) . We are learning lots and lots of new stuff from you . Thanks a
> lot :)
>
> --
> Regards
> Hari.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> Hi,
>
> --- Harishankaran K <sp2hari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > As of now,  even we are also newbies in this topic.
> > But everything has
> > to start from some point , right ? Most of our
> > friends here are eager
> > to know about this topic
>
> Sure, but, not USB device driver development. USB is a
> complicated protocol.
>
> The FreeMatter project is aimed at getting you guyz
> started. I will address this.
>
> >    Yes , though not all students , a group of
> > hackers here use
> > GNU/Linux for almost everything .
>
> Good.
>
> > Very few , but i am not sure whether they will
> > attend the lectures .
>
> The question on foreign language is to know if
> students are ready for onsite opportunities to
> countries that don't speak English.
>
> It is good to know one foreign language.
>
> > Students get 24*7 internet access in the computer
> > center but the
> > computers have only Windows . Only very few have
> > access to internet
> > from a linux box.
>
> Can students use a computer in their hostel/dorm room?
>
> > Sure :) . We are learning lots and lots of new stuff
> > from you . Thanks a lot :)
>
> You are going to be learning something new, every day.
> This is "real education".
>
> I have a request. I would like all students to ask
> questions, irrespective of whether you think it is a
> stupid question or not. If in doubt, simply ask - to
> the mailing list. The more mistakes you make, the more
> we can correct them, and the sooner you will all
> become "engineering students".
>
> Regards,
>
> SK
>
> --
> Shakthi Kannan
> http://www.shakthimaan.com
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:59:22 +0530
> From: "Allagappan M" <allagappan@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [glug-t] Re: Rgarding Next glugt Meet of this semester
>
> > Can students use a computer in their hostel/dorm room?
>
> Yes, they can (But, no internet)
>
> -Allagappan
>
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:15:01 -0700 (PDT)
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