-----Original Message-----
From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:50:33 +1000
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] retiring ..."from the information you originally stated, and still do on your corrected diagram, the motor is a motor, un energised, and as such has a rotor that is free to move independently of the stator THE DISC WOULD NOT KEEP ITS SAME FACE TO THE CENTRE DOT. AND THAT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE IN ERROR. .Will you acknowledge that first. Then we can continue discussing your demo.what on God's earth are you talking about?!......What kind of motor or (are) you discusing?!....This has to be a joke! Not the sentence, the whole charade. Nothing more need be said..I retire from this subject .. I pray Paul does as well, so that I be not tempted.. I feel very much like a victim of morbid manipulation, even though in good faith I tried to talk in basic physical terms.. I correct my typos in every instance that I notice them. I proof read every post, and yes occasionally an errror slips by.Allens posts have been so depressing, on scientific terms of his reaction, that I have honestly wondered if this is not a game he plays, based on hate of Catholics and Athiests. He does not even come half way to an understanding, but retaliates with in-nate verbacity, of the type above. Over and over again.This makes me feel sad and depressed in the sense that whereas I love every single person, desiring above all in charity that they find Jesus Christ in God Almighty, and that I tolerate absolutely any infirmity in other people regardless of sex colour religion or bias, preferring always to turn the other cheek. (yes in emotion I fail many times in the real world, but in writing this is hard to do) . In my entire life no one has ever tried my patience more than has Allen in every subject he has discussed with any person on this list. I have spent my heart in literal hours of trying to get some cognisance out of his recycled verbacity and responding to it.Why? Because on this list, I thought that all people here were interested in TRUTH above all else. Even the self acclaimed athiest Paul has this same objective, even though he conflicts with everyone else here. But he has shown no reluctance to listen. That really is all God asks of any person.I have to confess also that I am sad that none here has taken a stand, or made any comment concerning what to me is really a basic observable reality of mechanical law, having nothing to do with celestial observations. If this is anti catholic bias, thats fine, because I welcome persecution in all forms, for no other reason than that Jesus Himself said, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For he that will save his life, shall lose it: and he that shall lose his life for my sake, shall find it. For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world and suffer the loss of his own soul?Philip.----- Original Message -----Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:47 AMSubject: [geocentrism] Corrected Goofs
--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Corrected Goofs
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 3:26 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Corrected Goofs
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 3:07 PM
Allen you are still avoiding the key issue. It is not important how the rotor was imobilised, but it is a most important point that it was immobilised, something in which you goofed again in trying to demonstrate your theory. You did not declare that important point."not because how is important, but because I need to be sure you really meant a locked stator/rotor." ..What? I know it is not importaint, that is my point...how is irrelevant.........whether welded or just plain old "mechanical resistance" it is one and the same condition wrt motion?!.....If you state that how is not importaint then what is your question?...any way you lock it it will demonstrate a identical condition....NO ABILITY TO ROTATE.........I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU REAED AGAIN WHAT I JUST GAVE YOU VERY VERY SLOWLY BEFORE YOU BLOW IT OFF AS "GARBLED STUFF" ....How can anyone read it concisely when you make such confusing words. Your NO ABILITY TO ROTATE.....is unconditional, like most of your sentences, badly defined.. An unenergised motor is free to rotate, or it is not a motor. ...from the information you originally stated, and still do on your corrected diagram, the motor is a motor, un energised, and as such has a rotor that is free to move independently of the stator.. As such I was correct, despite your ongoing unsupported arguments to the contrary, in stating- THE DISC WOULD NOT KEEP ITS SAME FACE TO THE CENTRE DOT. AND THAT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES YOU WERE IN ERROR.Will you acknowledge that first. Then we can continue discussing your demo. Phil
