Gary, I'm puzzled why you believe the firmament is rigid like concrete. The plenum could be very dense, but flexible enough to allow differential radial speeds. One model for it is a vortex of Planck-size particles moving fastest at the edges of the universe and decreasing in speed to zero at the center....the Earth, of course. This main structure could have embedded sub-structures that supply the motion to the galaxies, clusters, star systems, etc. The challenge is to use Genesis as a guide in building a scientifically correct GC model. Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary L. Shelton > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:46 PM > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: (geocentrism) geostationary / geosynchrous > sat. > > > Philip, > > I guess if everything were locked in a firmament of concrete and spinning > ultra rigidly, then those stars would indeed follow the sun. But the sun > and moon do not show us a firmament that is so rigid, as solar eclipses > would happen every month at a new moon if it were. If things were in > lockstep in the firmament, the moon would have to travel as fast > around the > earth as the sun does. But it clearly does not, as evidences by the moon > phases. > > So, it would follow that the sun could make its annual double > helix movement > around the earth and the stars would not necessarily keep that > same pattern. > > Gary > > >