[geocentrism] dignity, principle and discipline.

In a world where God is not allowed, and that is especially the world of MS, 
one must expect true dignity, principle and self discipline to be absent. Paul 
said,

To have one's argument prevail, to annhiliate an opponent's position, to squash 
one's enemy are primitive and powerful motivators. To see merit or reason in 
onother's argument is less common......


Paul I accept your arguements as regards human weakness, and yes we all are 
guilty.. Though I hazard it is a weakness more prevalent in this modern world 
today where discipline along with principle of any sort especially self 
discipline, if not a dirty word, is a completely unknown word..  

But not in a text book. Not in a lesson? Not in a teaching aid!  Not in a 
newspaper story! Not in a TV documentary, And Not in a University or its edu 
site..  And I hope not in anything I write here. Thats where scrutiny comes in. 

I'm sorry for appearing the perfectionist, in my requirements, but back in my 
day it was a requirement that most gentlemen insisted upon..  Its called truth 
with honour..  And no text book would call the evolution theory anything but 
....unless it was a true typographical mistake, something a gentleman would 
apologise for. 

"I had an insensitivity to grey"  Is that why you are using grey in your 
responses.. training your eye.. LOL   Please desist..  I can hardly see it at 
all...  

Philip. 
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  From: Paul Deema 
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  Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:57 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Magnet experiment


  Philip M

  From philip madsen Sat Apr 28 21:34:54 2007

  Paul surely you can see what I rightfully condemn in MS when they make the 
following statement..
  "To really understand the solar system we have to go back where it began and 
it began with comets."

  Notice the contradiction of ideas.  First the admission of not really 
understanding, which is ok, but then the assertion, "it began with comets" .   
thats only a wild guess.. Yet students will believe he is stating a fact...  

  They do it all the time...  

  Of course I will not contest what you say. One finds examples like this 
everywhere. The human brain commonly seems quite incapable of seeing beyond the 
first order implications of what is being said and similarly blind to the fact 
that a criticism against one's adversaries may very well apply equally to 
oneself. (eg the beam vs mote in the eye etc). Intolerance to ideas which are 
at variance with our own will put blinkers on most, who are commonly simply 
looking for the first opportunity to condemn all of what they are hearing. To 
have one's argument prevail, to annhiliate an opponent's position, to squash 
one's enemy are primitive and powerful motivators. To see merit or reason in 
onother's argument is less common.

  This little philosophical digression is a long way from the topic of Magnets 
so you won't mind if I include something from the Aether debate. But in any 
case, havn't we also established that consensus is no proof...? Again I concede 
your point but it doesn't exclude the possibility of being correct or the 
increased probability of being correct. Alternatively, you cannot say that 
truth is defined by uniqueness. I once owned a pair of trousers which I 
perceived to be green but on one occasion, after several such similar instances 
of being told they were grey, I decided to look more closely. With optical 
magnification I was able to see that the fabric was woven with one strand of 
green for every four strands of grey. Shortly after this, upon failing two 
items in the Ishihara test, I questioned my examiner on the matter. He assured 
me that there was a line from 'x' to 'y', and that I had an insensitivity to 
grey. In this case the majority were correct. So while contrary concensus may 
not be proof, it is certainly an occasion for examining one's own position more 
closely than usual.

  Paul D


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