[geocentrism] Re: depression

Have to strongly disagree with this Phillip, sorry, but it's quite simply 
distasteful rubbish.

Steven.
From the worldly view Steven it is not rubbish, because it has happened and  is 
happening. This is why the collapse is almost total. 

Your response should have been to rebuke me with this, and I would be rebuked 
well indeed. 

"40 And the king answering shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you 
did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. " 

Philip. 


29 For to every one that hath shall be given, and he shall abound: but from him 
that hath not, that also which he seemeth to have shall be taken away. 30 And 
the unprofitable servant, cast ye out into the exterior darkness. There, shall 
be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 
31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with 
him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall 
be gathered together before him: and he shall separate them one from another, 
as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 
Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye 
blessed my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation 
of the world. 

35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me to 
drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: 
sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 

37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry 
and fed thee: thirsty and gave thee drink? 38 Or when did we see thee a 
stranger and took thee in? Or naked and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see 
thee sick or in prison and came to thee? 

40 And the king answering shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you 
did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven Jones 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:53 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: depression


  philip madsen wrote: 
    People in this modern age are lacking in intestinal fortitude..  When I was 
a kid, and the girl of your life just dumped you , you think life is over.. 
Thats depression..  "Get over it"  was the correct treatment..  Today its 
phenobarbs.. or a shrink. 

    Now in those days, if they didn't get over it, they died, and so the 
genetic pool remained pure.. Today medicine and foolhardiness is keeping impure 
genes alive to reproduce, and so today we have soldiers who consider themselves 
in warfare too valuable an asset to risk life, and so shoot the women and kids 
of the enemy.. Both sides have this ethic..  They do not fight each other, but 
wipe oput the other sides women and kids.. For which they get counselling ... 
heaven forbid they should feel guilty..  .Get over it!..  You do not need faith 
Paul.  a healthy dose of fear with intelligence helps a lot..  

    Philip.  

  Have to strongly disagree with this Phillip, sorry, but it's quite simply 
distasteful rubbish.

  Steven.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Paul Deema 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:44 PM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: depression


      Steven J
      Well my admission has prompted a few responses. That was not my intention 
but thanks anyway.
      You have my sympathies also.
      In my case, I am resigned to a dietary supplement of little purple pills 
which I get from the chemist monthly on my doctor's 'recommendation'. They work 
pretty well most of the time but every so often not quite as well as hoped. 
That they do work is shown by the negative effects I've noted each time I've 
tried to come off them. It's a small price to pay.
      Concerning faith -- I am aware that faith can enable the individual to 
achieve results he thought beyond him but unfortunately you have to have the 
faith. You can't get a script for that, you can't buy it at the fish market.
      Also -- and this may not sit well with you -- it really doesn't matter 
what it is that you have faith in. People who profess faith in a wide range of 
deities, talismans and/or charms report similarly. I don't have that faith -- 
difficult to say whether fortunately or unfortunately -- I simply try to 
understand the reality, take whatever actions have been shown statistically to 
be effective and try accept the outcome with whatever degree of stoicism I can 
muster.
      Paul D



      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Steven Jones <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Tuesday, 6 November, 2007 9:33:34 PM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: depression

      philip madsen wrote:
      > "suffer to some extent from depression" 
      >  
      > Depression is an imaginary desease some men catch from women.. For a 
      > cure it is only necessary for a man to imagine he has not got it, and 
      > have another beer.
      >  
      > The only occasion I get depressed is when I have sinned against God. 
      > And a simple honest apology with some prayers for penance quickly 
      > fixes that..
      Depression does exist! Sorry to hear that Paul. I once suffered from a 
      very terrible case of it, but didn't use conventional medication. God 
      can help cure the illness as God can with any disease, have faith and 
      hope! You may be blessed with a miracle.

      Whilst we're talking about such matters, I find People with a faith tend 
      to be able to cope with hard scenarios better than those who don't. This 
      is an opinion, not a statement.

      Truly,

      Steven.
      >  
      > Philip.
      >
      >    ----- Original Message -----
      >    *From:* Paul Deema <mailto:paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      >    *To:* Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      >    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2007 5:01 AM
      >    *Subject:* [geocentrism] Re: Regner concedes?
      >
      >    Philip M
      >
      >    I have been following the play but there there has been just so
      >    much of it in recent days and I write so slowly -- I care about my
      >    spelling, punctuation, phraseology etc -- that there was no way I
      >    could comment on everything I would have liked to. I was also
      >    trying very hard to illustrate and describe some aspects of daily
      >    and annual star trails and not managing to get it together.
      >    Complicating the matter is the fact that I suffer to some extent
      >    from depression and every so often, when the stress level gets too
      >    high I just have to back off.
      >
      >    Now to two excerpts from your posts -
      >
      >    I have said it before, to those who do not accept the aether as a
      >    possibility, there is no other explanation other than to accept
      >    that the earth moves.. why are you silent Paul?
      >
      >    Well I think I've explained the silence. But Philip -- can there
      >    be any doubt in your mind about my position? If there is, then my
      >    Herculean efforts in the past have been wasted!
      >
      >    and -
      >
      >    An aside.
      >
      >    Somehow I get the feeling that Paul has been merely stirring the
      >    pot on the ecliptic poles star trails issue to create confusion,
      >    dissention, and diversion to make geocentrism adherents look as
      >    stupid as he believes us to be. Notice he has not responded or
      >    even made any reference to any point that I have made that seems
      >    to support the HC position . Thats my second challenge to you Paul !
      >
      >    Philip -- can you doubt that I support whatever you say which
      >    supports heliocentrism? (Always providing you're making sense of
      >    course and I concede that you usually do!) I do have a problem
      >    understanding this dichotomy of ideas you hold however. If you can
      >    manage this, then how is it that you cannot visualise the
      >    mechanism of producing simultaneously daily and annual rotation
      >    and revolution about two axes? I'd have thought that the latter
      >    was a doddle compared to the former!
      >
      >    Besides, I think I've demonstrated that while humour is an
      >    acceptable ingredient in almost anything, I don't regard childish
      >    games as humour. I have a position and until I see reason to
      >    change I'll maintain it. You can be assured that I am not guilty
      >    of '... stirring the pot ...'.
      >
      >    One more post then off to bed!
      >
      >    Paul D
      >
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