[geocentrism] Re: crucifixion
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:08:23 +1000
perhaps we are chasing different dogs.......i am saying that the crucifixion of
Jesus was especially more harsh than that usually used. the bible does not say
the two thieves were nailed to their crosses? Only that Jesus was.
Philip
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: crucifixion
Exactly what historical records are you referring to? ..The Bible is the
definitive historical record for the very events in question here and it
specifically outlines Nails.. ?
The official extant governmental "records" (historical records of the times)
are far from "complete" but if you are insistent on their sole and or
preeminent authority for such maters .... then the Slaughter of the innocents
(Matthew 2:16-18) never took place ...?
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
?.............Why would it have been unusualy for nails to have been used?
Based upon historical records of the times.. perhaps?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:34 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: crucifixion
If your going to appeal to what scripture states then it must have been
the hands, not wrist. The two are not one and the same. Further, there is no
reason for it not to have been in the literal, ordinary,comon everyday meaning
and reading of "the hands & feet". .....Dispite all the posible ways they could
and did crufiy folk, why could it not posibly have been just as it was
described in the text with no additional comentary in Jesus
case?.............Why would it have been unusualy for nails to have been used?
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville, I will find the medical detail soon.. Meanwhile where in the
bible does it say rope was used. or that it was in the palm... I ask this
despite Mel Gibsons depictation.
Was it not an unusual method of the time that nails were used?
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neville Jones
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:06 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Telekinesis - Psychokinesis
Philip,
Just one, small comment. You said that, "the nails had to be further
up near the wrist." That is not true, because the forearm would be bound to the
beam with rope at the wrist location. The nail can then be positioned exactly
where the Bible says. Indeed, there are far too many small bones in the wrist
for several of them not to have been shattered by the nail.
Neville.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:41:03 +1000
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Telekinesis - Psychokinesis
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