[geocentrism] Re: crucifixion

perhaps we are chasing different dogs.......i am saying that the crucifixion of 
Jesus was especially more harsh than that usually used.  the bible does not say 
the two thieves were nailed to their crosses? Only that Jesus was. 

Philip
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Allen Daves 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:23 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: crucifixion


  Exactly what historical records are you referring to? ..The Bible is the 
definitive historical record for the very events in question here and it 
specifically outlines Nails.. ?
  The official extant governmental "records" (historical records of the times) 
are far from "complete"  but if you are insistent on their sole and or 
preeminent authority for such maters .... then the Slaughter of the innocents 
(Matthew 2:16-18) never took place ...?


  philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    ?.............Why would it have been unusualy for nails to have been used?

    Based upon historical records of the times..  perhaps? 
    Phil
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Allen Daves 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:34 AM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: crucifixion


      If your going to appeal to what scripture states then it must have been 
the hands, not wrist. The two are not one and the same. Further, there is no 
reason for it not to have been in the literal, ordinary,comon everyday meaning 
and reading of "the hands & feet". .....Dispite all the posible ways they could 
and did crufiy folk, why could it not posibly have been just as it was 
described in the text with no additional comentary in Jesus 
case?.............Why would it have been unusualy for nails to have been used?



      philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        Neville, I will find the medical detail soon..  Meanwhile where in the 
bible does it say rope was used. or that it was in the palm... I ask this 
despite Mel Gibsons depictation. 

        Was it not an unusual method of the time  that nails were used?  

        Philip. 

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Neville Jones 
          To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:06 AM
          Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Telekinesis - Psychokinesis


          Philip,

          Just one, small comment. You said that, "the nails had to be further 
up near the wrist." That is not true, because the forearm would be bound to the 
beam with rope at the wrist location. The nail can then be positioned exactly 
where the Bible says. Indeed, there are far too many small bones in the wrist 
for several of them not to have been shattered by the nail.

          Neville.




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            Sent: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:41:03 +1000
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