[geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs attachment

  • From: Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:51:13 +1100

Regner in green.

philip madsen wrote:
Why is it an illusion?!?!
Why isn't it just a matter of perspective?
Both are equally real - they just depend on where you watch from.

      - Regner
 
You are mathmatically correct , I did say reference frames were a mathmatical tool, unrelated to reality.
They are mathematical/physical tools, but they are profusely real!
They describe your reference points in the real world when you do
measurements/observations of that real world.
 
I find it strange that you consider two different perspectives as equal reality. There can only be one truth.
Two different perspectives are just two different ways of seeing the same one truth.
I don't understand how you can have a problem with that. If I was sitting still in a
train traveling at 180 km/h - then I would be both sitting still, and traveling at 180km/h
towards my destination (assuming I boarded the right train) - for those in the US; such
trains are actually common and useful in the rest of the world...
Perspective is an illusion,
So if I look at your front and another person looks at your back, we are both suffering
an illusion - what are we supposed to see?
That you have a front- and a back-side are both part of the same reality, as is the fact
that we can only see one side at a time.
unless you already agree with our proposition that the sun moves across the sky of a stationary earth!
A Helio-centric and a Geo-centric Solar system are two very different situations
that cannot be part of the same reality. Seeing the Sun, Moon, etc., set and rise from
our perspective on Earth, is expected in one scenario and not excluded in the other.
But one is wrong and which one, has to be established by other means.

 - Regner
 
 
re the travelling ball:

Both cannot be equally real with respect to the ball itself which I am discussing..  What is the ball in truth and reality doing? Thats real science.
 
But perspectives could be equally illusions, to the observer on the plane or the alleged stationary observer outside the plane.
 
Unless we could establish an absolute stationary point, (which geocentrism does) then we must assume all the different observations  are illusions, appearances. i.e. relative. 
 
But in the jet plane I know the 2 ft drop in a straight line is an illusion, because with my intellect I know that I and the ball are travelling 600mph. That much I know.
 
These are the only motions to consider for the geocentrist, but for the heliocentrist there is no end, even at galactic motion..  What is the galaxy motion referenced to.? etc etc etc... 
 
 
Philip.
 

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