[geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs

  • From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:00:45 -0800 (PST)

Paul....me in blue...

if the breaking force  ..my insert..GRAVITY in the case of a orbiting 
earth...was applied to every molecule of the vehicle including you, then I 
concieve no effect to be "felt" 

That might be true for a human being  but ......NO.........You see MS conciders 
inertia and gravity effetively one in the same thing. There is no difference 
between them only perspective. In fact Einstein declared their equivalence in 
1921 at Princeton University. 'The possibility, of explaining the numerical 
equality of inertia and gravitation by the unity of their nature gives to the 
general theory of relativity, according to my conviction, such a superiority 
over the conceptions of classical mechanics, that all the difficulties 
encountered must be considered as small in comparisonn" The Relativity 
Explosion, New York: Vintage Books, 1976, p. 83
Thus a change in gravitational feilds is equivicated to a change in 
inertia...Gravity itself becomes/ defines a inertial a ref frame........problem 
is inertial velocity is and can be measured via acelerometers using quantum 
states which do not conform to gravity as things do at larger scales and some 
differences where there should not be and none where there should.....ie MM, MG 
sagnac gyroscopes... .......As the earth orbits the sun the grav changes 
supposedly conform to newtons inverse square law which describes a change in 
gravity which also describes the acceleration of gravitaional bodies to 
eachother (inertia). The only thing that is needed to measure any change in 
inertia is to measure a change in gravity...every heard of gravitymaps?.....The 
calcs show that is is a measurable quantity (change in inertia= change in 
gravity) but no one has ever measured it...ummmmmm....That is why Regner 
appealed to the equivlince principle of inertial frames  but
 that will not work either for the reasons i gave already but am ready to 
expound upon thoes further......The Gravitaional pull of the sun affects the 
pull on the earth and every object on it but just just as in the case of some 
elevators you cannot feel the motion of the elevator itself  but you can 
"detect" via intrimentaion a change in gravity/ that you weigh less (Inerta) 
when you move toward the center of gravity (down toward earth) or in this case 
free fall "down" toward the sun and visa versa......... (ie  a scale that is 
undergoing the same inertail/gravity changes in the elevator as you are can 
still detect the change in gravity.......... accelerometers use things such as 
light and quantum states to measure inertial/ gravitational changes. ) The 
earth and everything on it should weigh less as we move away and more as we get 
closer by a factor of  
"Remember that (in HC) the direction of the velocity has also changed over the 
6 months 
and the velocities in the two instances will be exactly opposite. We can get a 
rough estimate 
of that acceleration by just adding the two velocities in Eq. (2), since  
a-(-b) = a+b, to get: 
(4)               (30.29e5 cm/s + 29.29e5 cm/s) / (year/2d0)  =  0.3776 cm/s2 
which is then 2595 times smaller than g. Absolutely measurable, but it wouldn't 
exactly 
knock you over. "
..................The gravitiaonl feild itself is the default ref fame by which 
inertia is measured, that is why Regner used the gravity feild to compare the 
earth's acceleration/ deceleration changes to.... Whether or not you as a 
person can  "feel it"  the point is it is measurable except for his objections 
which we are getting to....... ..............Nice try  though........... :-)







----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:09:30 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: acceleration calcs


Philip M, Allen D
Philip -- bang on!
Allen -- do you accept Philip's (and my) view? If not, why not?
Paul D
 
From Philip M
re Alan and Regners figures.  
On this business of "feeling" acceleration, whilst I do not pretend to having 
had enough interest in checking the figures, I still reason that its a matter 
of how forces are applied, as to whether you feel anything. 
In a suddenly braking car you get flung forward...  because the force is at the 
wheels..  But if the breaking force was applied to every molecule of the 
vehicle including you, then I concieve no effect to be "felt" 
Philip. 
 
From Allen D
Assume for the sake of argument that your body could not  detect that  change 
rate, current instrumentation however (acelerometers) are able to detect that 
amount of inertial change to almost infinite amounts, and they are not 
"aetheraly" depemdent).  



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